2f Turbo (2 Viewers)

[AlaskanWheeler]

Is there any literature on this type of modification? Did a search with no definate results. What do you guys think? Can it be done and still be reliable? What would have to be done to the motor? Will the stock compression ratio be mild enough to handle a little boost?
Any suggestions would be great.
Thanks

 

[Mace]

Not much lit..

Personaly I think it is a great idea

It can be done and be reliable

Stock old tired ass motor works fine. But rebuilt would be better.

Stock compression ratio is perfect.

 

[AlaskanWheeler]

Mace,
Is that a propane injector? I wonder how multi-port injection would be in this situation. Maybe a mega-squirt as the operating system.

 

[Mace]

Yes it is propane.


Multiport is a bit of a waste on a cruiser motor..

Lots have thought about it. Most decided that it was a bad idea..

 

[Texican]

OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!

Someone showed interest in Maces, hot rod tractor motor...........I'll bet he splooged himself

Butch

 

[Mace]

Shaddup grandpa..


You show me a V8 conversion that costs $300...


Most Driveshaft mods would cost that alone..

Besides.. It works.. And is super simple..

 

[AlaskanWheeler]

Mace,
Is there a noticable gain in power after using that turbo? What type of turbo are you using? How much boost are you allowing your motor to handle?
Thanks.

 

[Mace]

Very noticable.

38's with 4.11 gears sound nice???


I have gotten 12 lbs of boost. But most of hte time never over 7 lbs.

Turbo is A Garrett T04

 

[wngrog]

Mace,
Is there a noticable gain in power after using that turbo? What type of turbo are you using? How much boost are you allowing your motor to handle?
Thanks.

Hell yes! I did a 38.5" burnout at the Black Hills in that sucka!

If he had a decent transmission in that truck it would be quite fun to drive!

 

[AlaskanWheeler]

The 2F turbo sounds like a fun tinker job, but I think an oil burner may be better suited for my needs.

 

[bad_religion_au]

Shaddup grandpa..


You show me a V8 conversion that costs $300...


Most Driveshaft mods would cost that alone..

Besides.. It works.. And is super simple..

are you saying that for about 300 bucks US and my running 2f (currently on LPG - basically propane) i could turbo it?

do you have a writup/ details?

 

[Mace]

With buying a used Turbo..
$150
And doing the work yourself (say $50 in tubing)

Another $50 in running the coolant and oil lines

You could make a manifold with a stock Exhaust manifold and a $15 T04 plate.

Then whatever exhaust would be..

Soo, yeah I think it can be done..

But if you put more money into it it will look nicer


And also, the turbo that I currently have came here from AU.
They were made as kits for the 2F in the early 80's. You have a better chance of getting one than I do

 

[bad_religion_au]

what company made the kit?

my mate has a t04 sitting in his shed at the moment, was going to strap it to a suzuki (the ones you call samari's).

with your setup, what's it setup like, much lag? is the torque set high in the rev range, or just off idle?

side note. i recon this engine would rock in a cruiser. Ford australia has a lot less quality issues than ford US before you slam it

Ford turbo 4 litre inline 6. 550Nm of torque from 2000 rpm and remaining constant all the way through to 4250 rpm...

but i've been toying with the idea of turboing my 2f for awhile.

 

[weigellj]

I am going to try and tackle this install this winter on my project FJ40. I am going to be running gas/t4 and I trying to figure out the options.

There is a post on pirate on what looks like a stock 2f turbo setup.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=59015&highlight=turbo

1. What CFM should the carb flow for everything to work properly?

2. What type of carb did they use on the stock setup and what was the CFM? 2brl/4brl/1brl ect.

I might be either in left field here or right on, but....

If the CFM is 390 or higher, why not use a Predator Carb? Quite honestly I ran one for about 2 years off-road and I had zero problems with it. Ran good on angles ect. The Predator will flow 390 to 900 cfm on its own and is designed to run with turbos/superchargers/blowers ect. It can be mounted front/back/sideways. Only problems I can think of right off the bat is the clearance for the hood ect.

 

[weigellj]

Actually looking at the pic in this post, i don't think hood clearance would be a problem.

 

[Mace]

I am going to try and tackle this install this winter on my project FJ40. I am going to be running gas/t4 and I trying to figure out the options.

There is a post on pirate on what looks like a stock 2f turbo setup.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=59015&highlight=turbo

1. What CFM should the carb flow for everything to work properly?

2. What type of carb did they use on the stock setup and what was the CFM? 2brl/4brl/1brl ect.

I might be either in left field here or right on, but....

If the CFM is 390 or higher, why not use a Predator Carb? Quite honestly I ran one for about 2 years off-road and I had zero problems with it. Ran good on angles ect. The Predator will flow 390 to 900 cfm on its own and is designed to run with turbos/superchargers/blowers ect. It can be mounted front/back/sideways. Only problems I can think of right off the bat is the clearance for the hood ect.

That is not a stock setup.

The 460 is a 4 barrell. Vac actuated secondaries. the 500 is a two barrell. I would try to get a 4 shooter personaly.

The "stock" setup used a Holley 460


And hood clearance is close but not bad. Your main problem is The brake master cylinder.

 

[Roswell Rat]

Mace-

I'm seeing a 2F turbo project in my future...

Are you running a wastegate on your set-up? Seems like too much pressure equals destruction over time. Also, where did you pull your pressurized oil line from?

Seems like a good turbo choice would be a Toyota unit from an early 90's 6 cylinder Celica. They have an internal wastegate and are cooled with oil and coolant.

If we keep our rigs all Toyota then they aren't mongrels, right?

 

[Mace]

Yes there is a wastegate on my setup. But it never gets used. You cannot build up enough pressure on a 40 to open it.

That is one of the nice things about the bigger turbo.. The smaller celica turbo will spool up faster but peak out quick..


And they still are mongrels

 

[treerootCO]

out of this beast?

 

[Roswell Rat]

Mace-

I'm still curious where you are pulling the pressurized oil from. Block? Head? More info, please.