2f To Diesel Swap?
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from all the threads I have read the "most simple" is like what Crushers said.
But on here many have installed all different types of diesels into there 60. I would try searching a bit. Then post some question back up in this thread if you have any more.
Also there is an adapter to run a SBC 350 in there, so that means the adapter should work for the 6.2l chevy diesel.
Also many guys are installing the cummins 4 banger. 4b-t
Now that you are registered on here you will find the search function really handy. I would do an advanced search in this section first, then also in the 60 section. Try all the key words.
Stickboy is a name of guy who did a fj60 conversion to a 13b-t diesel. His thread is really good. Also look in the FAQ at the top of the page in the diesel section.
Cheers and welcome to the board.
But on here many have installed all different types of diesels into there 60. I would try searching a bit. Then post some question back up in this thread if you have any more.
Also there is an adapter to run a SBC 350 in there, so that means the adapter should work for the 6.2l chevy diesel.
Also many guys are installing the cummins 4 banger. 4b-t
Now that you are registered on here you will find the search function really handy. I would do an advanced search in this section first, then also in the 60 section. Try all the key words.
Stickboy is a name of guy who did a fj60 conversion to a 13b-t diesel. His thread is really good. Also look in the FAQ at the top of the page in the diesel section.
Cheers and welcome to the board.
Eventually, I'm going to do a turboed 6.2l. It's comming out of my Suburban, when I get aroud to it. As BrownBear said, the SBC adapters will work for the 6.2l.
Browndog put a 13B-T in a 60. Johnnyporp is currently installing a 12H-T in his 62. I'm just finishing a 12H-T in my 60.
Read up and ask away. I'm sure that any of us would be willing to help however we can.
Welcome!
Read up and ask away. I'm sure that any of us would be willing to help however we can.
Welcome!
Just a friendly suggestion, look into the smog laws in CA before you do this. From everything that I have seen, its not exactly legal. But stranger things have happened...
Yes. I have a 1hz for sale in North Carolina. Check the for sale section of JDM parts.
>>Also many guys are installing the cummins 4 banger. 4b-t
I'll 2nd that!
If your in the US and having your rig TOTALLY Toyota, the cummins motor would be the way to go.
If my 3B goes south... I'll be looking for a 4B-T
Where RU?
I'll 2nd that!
If your in the US and having your rig TOTALLY Toyota, the cummins motor would be the way to go.
If my 3B goes south... I'll be looking for a 4B-T
Where RU?
Yeah, I'm from Atlanta....grew up there and only moved here two years ago. Who did you buy a motor from? They didn't stand behind it?
chump business if they did not. Of course, if it's a used motor, it's a used motor. I mean, you could buy a good one, then run it for 3 months, you get water into the injection pump, and have a knocker as you say. If you are after a full warranty, you had better buy a new one, otherwise it will just depend on if anything goes wrong and what it was.
Anyway....a 1hz is a naturally aspirated 6 cylinder toyota diesel. It's a current north american motor, so parts are "easy".
chump business if they did not. Of course, if it's a used motor, it's a used motor. I mean, you could buy a good one, then run it for 3 months, you get water into the injection pump, and have a knocker as you say. If you are after a full warranty, you had better buy a new one, otherwise it will just depend on if anything goes wrong and what it was.
Anyway....a 1hz is a naturally aspirated 6 cylinder toyota diesel. It's a current north american motor, so parts are "easy".
It's a '70. No smog.ChuckB said:
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I didn`t buy the knocker , my friend did but they did not stand behind it at all. It immediately knocked on start up. He still has not gotten over it and there it still sits with a bad motor. How much work is fitting your motor in my 60? How much do you want for it?
In case anyone is interested there is a rebuilt Cummins 4B with dodge adpter plate for sale on ebay. The seller is asking $2,000. Claims 102 hp at 1800 rpm and 260 ft/lbs torque. Can be cranked up to a lot more hp and torque at the cost of decreased milage.
Cummins no longer supports this engine directly, although parts are available from other distributors. Cummins is now pushing the B3.3 Tier 3 turbo as a replacement. They claim about the same performance as the 4B in a 600cc smaller engine.
Cummins no longer supports this engine directly, although parts are available from other distributors. Cummins is now pushing the B3.3 Tier 3 turbo as a replacement. They claim about the same performance as the 4B in a 600cc smaller engine.
The 1hz is not "too" bad to swap in from what I have heard. You will need to move your front motor mounts, but the rear mounts should be the same. You'll need to convert the starter and alt to 12v units, unless you want to leave them 24v...then you will run a converter for the rest of the truck. Oh, and if you convert to 12v, there is also the solenoid for the fuel cut-off. That's just about it.... The vacuum pump is NOT on the alternator, so you won't need to worry about that, and honestly, the glow plugs wouldn't really need to be changed out in Atlanta. There will be annoying things like the throttle cable, air cleaner, sensors, etc....but you'll be dealing with that on most anything you convert to, so they aren't 1hz specific.
I would suggest you do some searching and reading on the forum here. There are a number of people that have done it and would have better info that me. I have started and run a 1hz, but have not installed in a 60 before.
Oh, and BTW, there is a guy in Atlanta (Marietta) that has two 70 series with diesels in them. He knows a good bit about the engines and is a helpful guy to boot. Send me a PM if you want his contact info.
I would suggest you do some searching and reading on the forum here. There are a number of people that have done it and would have better info that me. I have started and run a 1hz, but have not installed in a 60 before.
Oh, and BTW, there is a guy in Atlanta (Marietta) that has two 70 series with diesels in them. He knows a good bit about the engines and is a helpful guy to boot. Send me a PM if you want his contact info.
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Cummins still definitely supports the 4BT, for what its worth. They even offer rebuilt versions, rebuild kits and carry all parts, for what its worth.. I have had no trouble whatsoever getting parts for my 4BTs, many even locally from Carquest and Parts Plus...
Diselcruiserhead: I did not write that parts were unavailable. Cummins considers the 4B "obsolete" and is no longer selling it. The B3.3 is the 4 cylinder they are pushing now. This is based upon my conversations with their sales team in Grand Junction. Cummins seems to move in and out of the parts chain with surprising frequency. They no longer build many of the engines they badge. If someone buys a machine because of the Cummins name, they ought to research who actually built the engine. This bit me on the ass with the last tractor I bought. I thought I was buying Cummins but got Komatsu instead. Not that it really matters. Komatsu does a fine job. I thought I was being patriotic instead of a patsy.
The 4B may be one of the last engines Cumins actually built!
The 4B may be one of the last engines Cumins actually built!
Sweet!! I forgot to mention that if its pre-75 it shouldn't matter. Let me know how it turns out, I'm interested in this swap!!
Like to throw my 2 cents in on this one:
There was some mention of the 6.2 - good engine, if you can find a good one. 95% of them (upon inspection with crack testing equip.) have serious bottom end problems. If you manage to find one that doesnt have cracks through the main webs....well its kinda like winning the lottery. (the 6.5 isnt much better)
Cummins is still supporting the 4bt and 4bta in the industrial sector (man lifts, jlg's etc.) the only difference to an industrial and automotive is that sometimes the pump and govenor config. is different. This doesnt mean that it cant be changed to suit your application though, every thing else is the same. (This is all according to my Cummins rep. I deal with at work). Alot of guys are getting 140 to 160hp out of these things no problem.
Not sure about the rest mentioned, and good luck. Which ever way you decide to go, should be a huge improvement over your tired 2F!!!!
There was some mention of the 6.2 - good engine, if you can find a good one. 95% of them (upon inspection with crack testing equip.) have serious bottom end problems. If you manage to find one that doesnt have cracks through the main webs....well its kinda like winning the lottery. (the 6.5 isnt much better)
Cummins is still supporting the 4bt and 4bta in the industrial sector (man lifts, jlg's etc.) the only difference to an industrial and automotive is that sometimes the pump and govenor config. is different. This doesnt mean that it cant be changed to suit your application though, every thing else is the same. (This is all according to my Cummins rep. I deal with at work). Alot of guys are getting 140 to 160hp out of these things no problem.
Not sure about the rest mentioned, and good luck. Which ever way you decide to go, should be a huge improvement over your tired 2F!!!!