255/85/16 Toyo M-55 vs. Cooper S/T?

[ashooter]

Toyo Product Code 309150. This is the 8 ply M-55 that runs $150+/-, not the 10 ply $250 tire.... OR Cooper Discoverer S/T 255/85 R16.

Does anybody have either one of these tires?

If so, how do you like them? Pros/cons?

 

[stevek]

I had the 10 ply on my Dodge 2500 so its not apples to apples comparison but...its a great tire in all but mud. On the road, on gravel, on rock, on ice, and on snow it was awesome. Anytime you got into mud the tire would gum up. That truck did weigh close to 9K pounds though. I think it would be a good fit on an 80.

 

[semostickbow]

I've got the Coopers on my truck, just spent 2 weeks in serious ice w/no slippage. I really like these tires. Not a lot of whine, just enough to let you know they are there.

 

[debushau]

I actually had the same short list of tires. I opted for the Coopers as the M-55's were hard to come by and were $100 a corner extra. If I could find them for $150, I might think twice.

 

[Cj80cruiser]

I'd get whichever is cheaper but lean toward the Cooper if the price was the same. Cooper makes Mastercraft C/T also. These tires look mild in pictures but pretty aggressive in person. Especially for an all-terrain tire. Cooper also makes tires for Mickey Thompson, Dick Cepek, and ProComp. Mickey Thompson has the Baja ATZ and the Baja ATZ PLUS. I recently bought the Mickey Thompson ATZ 285/75R16 {new size in this style I think} and would stay away from the ATZ PLUS if you want aggressiveness. Almost got the Mastercraft because it was cheapest of all but liked Mickey Thompson a little better.

 

[Cj80cruiser]

Toyo Product Code 309150. This is the 8 ply M-55 that runs $150+/-, not the 10 ply $250 tire.... OR Cooper Discoverer S/T 255/85 R16.

Does anybody have either one of these tires?

If so, how do you like them? Pros/cons?

I just realized that you could possibly have meant the Cooper S/TT which looks more closely like the Toyo and you were talking about a size not offered in those model tires that I know of. If so, ignore above post. But if you want an aggressive tire thats good on the road and should get good highway and offroad miles take a look at those tires I mentioned previously. 285/75r16's look kinda skinny to me anyway and IMO the 255's would look way too skinny. Guess I'm used to the 33x12.50's that's popular. To each his own.

 

[ashooter]

I did some more research and found a long thread at expeditionportal comparing the Cooper S/T 255/85/16 with Toyo M-55 among others. Seems that everybody that has the Toyos is NOT happy with them after all. Supposedly they are just as noisy (or more so) than the Toyo MT, not as sticky on rocks, and last forever so if you don't like them you're still stuck with them for 50k miles.

Bottom line is that even in this oddball size, there are so many choices and they all sound like they last long enough that it's hard to pick what you want to drive around on for the next 2-3 YEARS.

Hell, maybe I'll just stick with 265/75's and go with a Toyo MT.

 

[Cj80cruiser]

Oops....I wasn't paying attention. Sorry ashooter Toyo M-55 not Toyo OC m/t.


If it's MPG or speed you're worried about with a 285 don't let that be a factor. My cruiser was slow with bad MPG and still is. Same level of awful.

 

[ashooter]

Oops....I wasn't paying attention. Sorry ashooter Toyo M-55 not Toyo OC m/t.


If it's MPG or speed you're worried about with a 285 don't let that be a factor. My cruiser was slow with bad MPG and still is. Same level of awful.

Not worried about mpg, other than I kind of randomly keep an eye on it as a diagnostic thing. Been getting 10-11 in town and 13-14 hwy with the 265 Revos, so I figure that's pretty good and I wouldn't expect that to change much without going to BIG tires (like 315's +)

When I first got the truck, I put a set of 285 Revos on it and didn't like the way it handled. I'd like to go to a set of 255's partly to add a little ground clearance, but I'll be honest and admit it's mostly for looks. The 265's looked fine to me before adding the OME springs, but now they look kinda "funny" - that little 1" lift really makes the tires look smaller. Roof rack is gone, and I've been planning to pull the ribs & fender flares, patch all the holes, and roll on some dune beige-ish paint this summer, so a set of 255's on 70 series wheels would fit right in with the look I'm aiming at.

For pure practicality, the cheap steelies I have with 265's make the most sense for the way the truck will be used... but where's the fun in that?

 

[Cj80cruiser]

Off the subject. How does that stock height lift look? Fairly level or stinkbug? I'm thinking of going the same route as you. Maybe use some shims in the front to level it out better but I'm not sure if they're needed. Rear end higher than front---OK. Front higher than Rear end----Not OK.

 

[Chotchy]

Not to hijack too much but what are some other AT options in the 255 range?

 

[ashooter]

Off the subject. How does that stock height lift look? Fairly level or stinkbug? I'm thinking of going the same route as you. Maybe use some shims in the front to level it out better but I'm not sure if they're needed. Rear end higher than front---OK. Front higher than Rear end----Not OK.

Maybe a little stink-buggish, but does not look bad to me - sits about 1/2" higher in the rear than the front. I figure the rear should be a little higher unloaded, so when you put a spare tire/wheel, water, fuel, tools, and maybe a custom rear bumper on the truck it will level out pretty well. Only way I could justify spacers on the front is if I expected to drive around empty all the time. I almost always have at least 200 lbs of junk in the back of my truck.

 

[ashooter]

Not to hijack too much but what are some other AT options in the 255 range?

This is about the most comprehensive list of tires in that size that I've seen - https://forum.ih8mud.com/camping-gear-recovery/91948-my-compilation-tires-size-255-85-16-a.html