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Before pictures with the 19.6hp Onan motor.
23 hp Briggs & Stratton or 24hp Honda
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After pics with 24hp Honda installed.
I had it installed for awhile but the wife hotwired it and burned the wiring harness up. I had to rewire most of the tractor.
It is now up and running again.
I had it installed for awhile but the wife hotwired it and burned the wiring harness up. I had to rewire most of the tractor.
It is now up and running again.
Just fyi... I was just looking at Ferris riders for my landscaping co. They now have Briggs Vanguard engines standard and Kawi"s are also available. We talked about the Vangard and my guy says it is a big block engine (relatively) and very reliable. Briggs owns Ferris.
He says I should not be afraid of it, but convincing skeptics like me (who have had very poor luck with Briggs in the past) that this is a good reliable long term engine will be tough. I personally would stick with Honda or Kawi.
Just my little .02 for the day !
Nice transplant there D' Animal !
He says I should not be afraid of it, but convincing skeptics like me (who have had very poor luck with Briggs in the past) that this is a good reliable long term engine will be tough. I personally would stick with Honda or Kawi.
Just my little .02 for the day !
Nice transplant there D' Animal !
Wish I'd seen this a little earlier.
Alot of folks that have done the Honda swap have experienced overheating problems. The Onan moves a lot more air.
Hopefully, you'll be O.K. in your application.
Flywheels and stators sell on ebay all the time for reasonable prices.
I would have rebuilt the Onan if necessary. The Honda will give you better fuel savings (Onan's are gas hogs).
Alot of folks that have done the Honda swap have experienced overheating problems. The Onan moves a lot more air.
Hopefully, you'll be O.K. in your application.
Flywheels and stators sell on ebay all the time for reasonable prices.
I would have rebuilt the Onan if necessary. The Honda will give you better fuel savings (Onan's are gas hogs).
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I still have the Onan and will run across a flyhweel and stator one day. They are build like a Land Cruiser. Keep the oil changed, air filter clean and adjust the points and install new plugs once a year and they will last a long time. My longest running one did 2,500 hours before I had to re-ring it. It ran another 2,000 hours and then I had to have it bored .010 over.
I have a second tractor that is pretty much a duplicate of this one. The only real difference between my Simplicity 9020 and my Allis Chalmers 720 is the hood and the roundness of the rear fenders. All other parts interchange as well as the attachments I have. Dozer blade, 60" mower deck, 48" rear tine tiller, snow cab, etc.
I have a second tractor that is pretty much a duplicate of this one. The only real difference between my Simplicity 9020 and my Allis Chalmers 720 is the hood and the roundness of the rear fenders. All other parts interchange as well as the attachments I have. Dozer blade, 60" mower deck, 48" rear tine tiller, snow cab, etc.
Cool! I love lawn tractors.
I'm restoring a JD 318 as we speak. Got the Onan all apart...gonna rebuild it.
Doing a complete frame off restoration, every nut and bolt. I am adding dedicated rear hydraulics (have two circuits up front already).
Pretty handy tractors when the big stuff isn't called for.
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Check the oil pump oil. I think John Deer speced out a plastic gear for the Onan. They break and by the time you know it, the motor has seized.
I might be thinking about the K series 17.5hp Kohler. It has been a few years sonce I did the warranty work on one of those.
I might be thinking about the K series 17.5hp Kohler. It has been a few years sonce I did the warranty work on one of those.
Ditto - I've had a Honda mower since 1986 and the only thing I've ever had to do to it is change the oil and clean/replace the air filter. It has started on the first pull for 22 straight years without fail. It's obviously a smaller engine than what you're looking at, but it's still a Honda engine!
I mentioned my generator, mower, and Civic, but I forgot my power washer. It also has a Honda engine and that thing is great. It runs full bore all day long and never fails to start. I bought the Honda because it had cast iron sleeves, a metal fuel tank, and solid construction. It should pretty much run forever with the right maintenance. That and the fact that it turns a CAT pump. They make awesome pumps, but they are a different company than Caterpillar tractors.
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Wife bunt some of the wiring out of it agian.
She forgot I fixed it and was hotwiring it again.
I have to laugh when I think about how many wifes know how to hotwire stuff.
She forgot I fixed it and was hotwiring it again.
I have to laugh when I think about how many wifes know how to hotwire stuff.
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Dan, Flint, would be neat to see pics of your older garden tractors. We have some discussions about older garden tractors in tut, and that's got me looking to pick up an older Simplicity, Bolens, Cub Cadet etc. Especially if I can find one with a hydraulic PTO tiller, mower deck and maybe a loader 
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Look for a Simplicity "LandLord" or "Sovereign" on Craigslist.
Dan, Flint, would be neat to see pics of your older garden tractors. We have some discussions about older garden tractors in tut, and that's got me looking to pick up an older Simplicity, Bolens, Cub Cadet etc. Especially if I can find one with a hydraulic PTO tiller, mower deck and maybe a loader
I should service my Onan generator some day it has 1,500 Hr's.
It dose not get used that much but when I do use it it needs to work.
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Considering the Sheduled maintenace on those is similar to a Land Cruiser. Yes you should.
I don't have a yard big enough for a ride on/tractor mower but will be getting one when I do. I like the retro fitting idea.
I love working on my Briggs mower.... never had a problem with it but I service it for the hell of it all the time.
Bent the blade on it today and that is the first thing that has gone wrong with it.
I had looked at honda mowers but the price range was a huge difference over the briggs that I got.
I love working on my Briggs mower.... never had a problem with it but I service it for the hell of it all the time.
Bent the blade on it today and that is the first thing that has gone wrong with it.
I had looked at honda mowers but the price range was a huge difference over the briggs that I got.
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I sent the Onan to my father in Iowa so he could keep his going. I now have to figure out the wiring on the Honda, again. The battery is not charging correctly.
