I found a diesel Toyota engine it's a 4 cylinder it's an 83 I have a 89 22 re has anybody put that engine in 22re is it even worth it what's the power difference and r they decent engines id love some info if anybody has heard of doing it done it I wanna know if it's worth it or not
22 re pickup to a diesel engine
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I say go for it. Can't hurt a thing.
not worth your time.
63HP, 93 ft lbs tq
no turbo or kits for it
your 22re is 113 HP and 142 ft lbs tq
63HP, 93 ft lbs tq
no turbo or kits for it
your 22re is 113 HP and 142 ft lbs tq
Unless you have plans to run veggie oil I don't see the point. Sure, the diesel will deliver a bit more MPG, but it's much dirtier emissions wise than a fuel injected gasser. If you're in California or somewhere else with smog checks, you'd definitely need to check on the legality of such a swap. Also, that 4cyl diesel is not one of Toyota's best offerings. The 22RE is more reliable and has more power.
extremetoy1 said:
^^ This. From an 83 it will probably be an L motor. As extreme said, it is a non-turbo with no power. My dad has a 2wd 83 pickup with an L in it. Yeah he gets around 40 mpg (on highway and 2wd) but in the summer he refuses to run the AC because it pulls so much power he can't get much over 50-55 on the interstate. A good rebuild on you 22RE will net you almost double the power of the L. If it were a 2LT then it would be worth the effort, or even a 2L because you could turbo it if you wanted.
Really would love some sourcing for this; my mechanic who worked in South Africa said the only truck you'll see overseas is diesels and majority are toyotas because of the abuse they can take and how much reliability they provide. I believe you're referring to the 2LT-E which has over-heating problems, for sure.
Diesels are actually better for emissions (CO2 wise) as per link
CO2 Emission Benefit of Diesel (versus Gasoline) Powered Vehicles - Environmental Science & Technology (ACS Publications)
That being said; I know the same generation 22r is a bolt in, with same tranny and bolt mounts, however diesel requires a lot more draw so your wiring has to be top notch and fuses are a lot higher.
I'd opt for finding an older diesel with Solid Axle and no ECU.
By dirty I meant smog and cancer causing emissions, not CO2. And, regarding concerns of global warming,
".. Laws that favor the use of diesel, rather than gasoline, engines in cars may actually encourage global warming, according to a new study. Although diesel cars obtain 25 to 35 percent better mileage and emit less carbon dioxide than similar gasoline cars, they can emit 25 to 400 times more mass of particulate black carbon and associated organic matter ("soot") per kilometer [mile]. The warming due to soot may more than offset the cooling due to reduced carbon dioxide emissions over several decades, according to Mark Z. Jacobson, associate professor of civil and environmental engineering at Stanford University..."
Of course, old diesels are especially bad in this regard.
Dunno about those L engines. I had the impression they were all duds, but that may be wrong.
".. Laws that favor the use of diesel, rather than gasoline, engines in cars may actually encourage global warming, according to a new study. Although diesel cars obtain 25 to 35 percent better mileage and emit less carbon dioxide than similar gasoline cars, they can emit 25 to 400 times more mass of particulate black carbon and associated organic matter ("soot") per kilometer [mile]. The warming due to soot may more than offset the cooling due to reduced carbon dioxide emissions over several decades, according to Mark Z. Jacobson, associate professor of civil and environmental engineering at Stanford University..."
Of course, old diesels are especially bad in this regard.
Dunno about those L engines. I had the impression they were all duds, but that may be wrong.
Fully agreed. Older diesels have an issue with being bad for your health, but better for the environment. Newer diesels are coming with an additive that is separate from the fuel and is located near the tailpipe to remove the particles from the exhaust typically lasting 20,000 miles and costing 30 bucks to replace every change.
And to follow up; the general consensus is the all of the 2L engines may be lacking top end power, but extremely rock solid in terms of build quality / reliability (except the 2LT-E heating problem).
esh said:
The 3L with the 2L turbo makes 122HP and 188 ft/lbs and I believe it's a much smaller and lighter package. Adding an intercooler is supposed to help you turn up boost and get another 15%.
This is according to some dynos on foreign websites of course.
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