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Very close as you said but no rub, part of the reason I went with tire I did. I was lucky that I had the '99 with larger tires to measure off of prior to purchasing tires.
22" or 18" rims
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Very close as you said but no rub, part of the reason I went with tire I did. I was lucky that I had the '99 with larger tires to measure off of prior to purchasing tires.
Very nice Phil! That is a great looking cruiser! Congrats on the purchase. Yea I saw this thread a little late.. haha
Have you had a chance to off-road these to see if there are any problems with rubbing under significant flex?
Now that you've had them a while longer, any additional observations (have been thinking about these and the Trail Grapplers....)
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I have TG on my other 100 for the last ~3 years and I think they are the best all around on/off road tire out. They lack good traction in mud but any AT does. They are quiet, smooth, and wife approved. What else would one want.
I have AHC and it flexs easier and more then a 100 without AHC so unless you have AHC there are others that could give a better answer.
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Both 60mm
Wow. This is the first I've heard this. You're saying AHC offers more travel in the front and rear compared to non-AHC model?
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I could not get my '99 with stock springs and T-bars to this is the same spot Im sure OME is not going to do it any better then stock.
The OME shocks (not the L's 
) are the same lengths open and closed as the AHC rams (from a 2001 anyway) so OME should have the same travel as AHC (had a measuring session recently when I got rid of the AHC and put the Bilsteins on). That says nothing about none AHC OEM of course or how easily stuff flexes.
) are the same lengths open and closed as the AHC rams (from a 2001 anyway) so OME should have the same travel as AHC (had a measuring session recently when I got rid of the AHC and put the Bilsteins on). That says nothing about none AHC OEM of course or how easily stuff flexes.Hmm, interesting. Thanks for posting.
Front end? I have a hard time believing that AHC offers more than the 7.5" travel spec. I can surely believe that AHC stuffs/flexes easier than OME due to spring rate. If you carry the added rate up front then OME setup will travel for sure. It's from a different angle however both wheels apprear to travel about the same.
The rear is a completely different story. Comparing your rear pic with my rear pic you'll see a ton more extention on mine. So much in fact, look how far forward my wheel goes. Look at the angle of my lower control arms.
Is there another thread like Loud mentioned where there was more info shared on this (so we don't hi-jack your thread)?
Front end? I have a hard time believing that AHC offers more than the 7.5" travel spec. I can surely believe that AHC stuffs/flexes easier than OME due to spring rate. If you carry the added rate up front then OME setup will travel for sure. It's from a different angle however both wheels apprear to travel about the same.
The rear is a completely different story. Comparing your rear pic with my rear pic you'll see a ton more extention on mine. So much in fact, look how far forward my wheel goes. Look at the angle of my lower control arms.
Is there another thread like Loud mentioned where there was more info shared on this (so we don't hi-jack your thread)?
From what I can tell from wheeling with 2000UZJ, AHC does not offer any more flex than a stock 100. The only advantage is that AHC seems to allow the suspension to flex more easily.....essentially softer spring rates/different valving. Basically stock AHC vs Stock Non AHC = same amount of total travel.
Shotts isnt that picture of the rear of your 100 after you mounted N74L shocks? If so, then thats not a fair comparison.
Shotts isnt that picture of the rear of your 100 after you mounted N74L shocks? If so, then thats not a fair comparison.
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Post of picture of the front of your with the front fully stuffed (if you can fully stuff it) and you will see the difference.
Getting the same extention in the rear as a N74 is as simple as relocating the shock mount on a AHC equipped 100.
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FWIW - The comparision was a stock T-bar '99 and a stock AHC '06. I own both, I tested both, and both run the same center of hub to fender lip when the AHC is in normal mode.
Thanks for the info!
And yes, it's not a fair comparison as that is an N74L picture. No doubt the benefits of the L's (first proven on the 80-series). So unless you could use N74L with AHC (and you can't...correct?), OME is the clear RTI winner over AHC.
Be glad to Phil. I need to learn about this AHC stuff so I can advise my buddy Walt correctly on his new-to-him '06.
Relocating the shock mount will lower the wheel's extended/droop point closer to mine however it will also lower the compressed/stuff point by the same amount. In other words you do not gain travel whatsoever. You simply drop everything down. I had to do this on my 80 as it's 7+" up and it had little droop and was a wheel-lifter. Lowering everything helped a lot in that case though no travel was gained on it either.
From the Off Road Magazine shoot:
Front fully stuffed. Opposed topped out. The rear tells the whole story and makes an amazing difference on the trails. In this location a regular OME or AHC 100 will simply lift wheels like mine used to.
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Then I suggest you go out with him and compare and post your findings.
I did my test and posted my finding between my stock '99 and the AHC'06.
Here is what full stuff should look like and a picture of the bump stop to back it up.
The thread is about if you like better the 22" or 18"?
I've already been out with LX's with AHC. I luv the ride! Smooth, good cycling suspension, a great setup. That said, they do lift wheels compared to what I'm now used to and so do Cruisers without L's. The 3" wheel travel gain is easily noted in the above pictures. I do wish my front spring rate was a tad less and the shock a tad firmer. It'd cycle better (like a stock Cruiser...like your AHC).
Hey...I mentioned "thread hi-jack" first in a post above!
We keep posting up though.
OK Phil...you have the last word on this (if you like)............
Hey...I mentioned "thread hi-jack" first in a post above!
We keep posting up though.OK Phil...you have the last word on this (if you like)............
22" on 40's might be ok 
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