2022 GX460 Nori Green Black Line Edition

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Hello all,

My name is Craig, and I recently purchased this '22 Nori Green Black Line with just over 20K on the odometer. My most recent vehicle before this one was a 2020 Ford F150. I loved that truck, however, it was just too big for normal everyday driving and I was looking into getting into an SUV anyway. I previously had 2 Tacomas, a 2nd Gen and a 3rd Gen. Having had a pretty terrible experience with my F-150 and the lack of support from the dealer, I knew I was going back to Toyota / Lexus. When I looked at the cab of the 4th Gen Tacoma, I was a little disappointed by the interior space and didn't really feel confident with the reliability of a brand-new generation. I also didn't want to wait for a new 4Runner or Land Cruiser. I didn't think to take any pictures with it stock, at least none that I could find, so here is a photo from today right after the new wheels and tires were installed:
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The wheel/tire set up consists of Fifteen52 Turbomac Classic HDs wrapped in BF Goodrich KO3's sized 265/70R17. Unfortunately, I misjudged the size of the tire a little bit and there is some rubbing when turning left and right, but it does not appear to rub in the rear at this time. I don't intend on fully flexing the vehicle at all and this one is likely to never see more than flat dirt or sandy roads to the beach. I'm trying to figure out whether a small spacer lift or trimming the fender liners is more appropriate.

My decision making process really came down to putting every vehicle candidate on a spreadsheet and making a decision based on data. If you're curious to see the craziness, here's a screenshot of the sheet that helped me make my decision. Some of the numbers are rough estimates, so don't beat me up to much on the accuracy:
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Now that you've seen the vehicle and my crazy decision making process, I'd like to share some more anecdotal reasons / my philosophy of why I ended up deciding on the GX460 to begin with. Having had many different vehicles over the course of my driving lifetime, from a '00 VW Jetta base model to a '00 Honda S200, to a '20 Ford F150, I knew that I wanted something that could fit the needs of someone who has been-there-done-that with the fast cars, paid my dues with the stripper model cars, and had the big trucks. My needs included:
  • A nice interior (including leather and Apple Carplay)
  • A refined driving experience
  • Super reliable
  • Practical for hauling Costco purchases / luggage for travel
  • Something with at least a little aftermarket support to add to the overall experience
For the future, I'll be looking into the following additions, or modifications, over time.
  • Interior storage
    • Thinking some form of molle racks on the interior rear trim and a shelf over the top.
    • Some form of storage for the middle area behind the center console
    • Driver and Passenger storage behind the seats
  • Exterior
    • The slimmest roof rack that I can find that will allow the mounting of a Thule Motion 3XL Cargo Box
    • A "stealth" front bumper to have some additional impact protection and to hold a winch
    • A "stealth" rear bumper to have some additional impact protection and to add yellow fogs to the rear
    • Some form of exterior "stealth" chase lights under the rear spoiler to add additional yellow fogs
  • Suspension
    • Very minimal lift, if any, but the intent is to keep it as roadworthy as possible and to be able to fit in my garage and parking garages around the city.
    • KDSS guards and other items
There's been a ton of great info on this forum thus far, and looking forward to meeting folks! Thanks for the read.
 
Congrats! For the rubbing, unless you want to add a spacer lift (which may or may not fix your issue), I would start with having someone turn the wheel lock to lock to see how bad the rubbing is and where it's occurring. You may only need a heat gun to massage the plastic and / or a knife to trim a little. The width and backspacing on the new wheels is going to play into it.
 
Congrats on your new rig! :cheers: Love the color!!!
As an engineer I like your methodology for decision making.
After looking at your spread sheet, I'd have to agree that the GX fit the bill best of the vehicles you listed with your desires and wants.
Also though, don't expect to get anything close to +400 miles per tank on your GX, especially with larger tires and loaded for vacation.

Regarding your wee bit of rubbing, myself and I'm sure most everyone on this forum would recommend you do a body mount chop (BMC)
As I tell folks new to this, it's kind of like getting your tonsils out, almost everyone has it done, it's painless and you can treat yourself to an ice cream afterwards.
Seriously, the body mount of both the GX's and the 5th Gen 4Runners is a major problem, but... it is one of the most common mods, doesn't cost very much and should cure your rubbing. Another option is, don't cut your inner fender wells, try to get a good view of exactly where your rubbing is, and see if a heat gun will work instead of cutting. Using a heat gun may be all you need.

Regarding M.O.L.L.E., I have the Victory and love them as you'll see in my photos:
Rear quarter panels: GX Rear Window MOLLE Panel | 460 & 470 (03-23) - Victory 4x4 - https://www.victory4x4.com/product/VGXRMP.html
Rear shelf: Upper Shelf - 4Runner, Land Cruiser, GX & LX - Victory 4x4 - https://www.victory4x4.com/product/UNI-UPRS.html
You can see them on my build thread starting at post #210: Builds - R²M 2013 GX 460 Overland Build - https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/r-m-2013-gx-460-overland-build.1104719/page-11#post-14049741

About lifts, I highly suggest NOT getting a body lift. ONLY do suspension lifts. Reason: All a body lift does is increase your CG (center of gravity) and does not increase wheel travel or quality of ride.
With a suspension lift you'll get more suspension travel, e.g.: smother ride. If you shop for the right suspension lift for how you want to build your rig, you will actually get a better ride!
If you look through my build thread, as built as my rig is, my wife and I feel it drives better than stock! We've done +1000 mile days going cross country, no problem! You won't get any of these benefits if you do a body lift and that's not even mentioning the headache of everything involved with extending shifter, radiator, etc.

For your armor, don't forget sliders for the bottom and get rid of the steps for steel. Considering your mentioned type of off tarmac type driving, I'd suggest aluminum sliders. They're lighter and generally a wee bit cheaper. But absolutely get sliders and protect your under belly! You NEVER know when you're on a rutted trail that looks simple and slide into a rut/stump/rock and wind up with a dent/break/crack of something underneath and leave you stranded and/or an expensive repair. This is one of the first mods I suggest, right after getting wheels/tires and suspension!

Get rock sliders! There are some nice looking rock sliders that have a more factory look than the tubular look, especially if you body match the paint.
You'll be glad you do even if you never use them off roading, they'll save your life and/or prevent a lot more damage if you ever get "T" boned in an accident. Ask me how I know... It happened to me and my sliders absolutely save my rig from a LOT more damage than if I didn't have them.

Also, there aren't really any KDSS guards.
 
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Congrats! For the rubbing, unless you want to add a spacer lift (which may or may not fix your issue), I would start with having someone turn the wheel lock to lock to see how bad the rubbing is and where it's occurring. You may only need a heat gun to massage the plastic and / or a knife to trim a little. The width and backspacing on the new wheels is going to play into it.
Hey Bang Bang, thanks for the tips. Based on the content that I've watched on YT, it's definitely rubbing in the usual places on the bolts holding in the rear of the fender liner and on the mini-mudflap on the front. I think I'm going to start with securing the fender liners with a thick zip tie and doing a light trim of the fender liner, and taking the front mudflap off.
 
Love that combo. I've been fighting the urge to trade my 2017 in on one of those. Very nice.
Thanks, Littlehouse. I had to hunt for a Nori Green in my area. I almost settled for a Pearl White Premium, but it got sold out from underneath me at a dealer. This one popped up on the opposite side of the state and that dealer offered to drive it to me, so it really was like the stars aligning.
 
So.... that spreadsheet.... what type of engineering degree do you have? :)
 
Congrats on your new rig! :cheers: Love the color!!!
As an engineer I like your methodology for decision making.
After looking at your spread sheet, I'd have to agree that the GX fit the bill best of the vehicles you listed with your desires and wants.
Also though, don't expect to get anything close to +400 miles per tank on your GX, especially with larger tires and loaded for vacation.

Regarding your wee bit of rubbing, myself and I'm sure most everyone on this forum would recommend you do a body mount chop (BMC)
As I tell folks new to this, it's kind of like getting your tonsils out, almost everyone has it done, it's painless and you can treat yourself to an ice cream afterwards.
Seriously, the body mount of both the GX's and the 5th Gen 4Runners is a major problem, but... it is one of the most common mods, doesn't cost very much and should cure your rubbing. Another option is, don't cut your inner fender wells, try to get a good view of exactly where your rubbing is, and see if a heat gun will work instead of cutting. Using a heat gun may be all you need.

Regarding M.O.L.L.E., I have the Victory and love them as you'll see in my photos:
Rear quarter panels: GX Rear Window MOLLE Panel | 460 & 470 (03-23) - Victory 4x4 - https://www.victory4x4.com/product/VGXRMP.html
Rear shelf: Upper Shelf - 4Runner, Land Cruiser, GX & LX - Victory 4x4 - https://www.victory4x4.com/product/UNI-UPRS.html
You can see them on my build thread starting at post #210: Builds - R²M 2013 GX 460 Overland Build - https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/r-m-2013-gx-460-overland-build.1104719/page-11#post-14049741

About lifts, I highly suggest NOT getting a body lift. ONLY do suspension lifts. Reason: All a body lift does is increase your CG (center of gravity) and does not increase wheel travel or quality of ride.
With a suspension lift you'll get more suspension travel, e.g.: smother ride. If you shop for the right suspension lift for how you want to build your rig, you will actually get a better ride!
If you look through my build thread, as built as my rig is, my wife and I feel it drives better than stock! We've done +1000 mile days going cross country, no problem! You won't get any of these benefits if you do a body lift and that's not even mentioning the headache of everything involved with extending shifter, radiator, etc.

For your armor, don't forget sliders for the bottom and get rid of the steps for steel. Considering your mentioned type of off tarmac type driving, I'd suggest aluminum sliders. They're lighter and generally a wee bit cheaper. But absolutely get sliders and protect your under belly! You NEVER know when you're on a rutted trail that looks simple and slide into a rut/stump/rock and wind up with a dent/break/crack of something underneath and leave you stranded and/or an expensive repair. This is one of the first mods I suggest, right after getting wheels/tires and suspension!

Get rock sliders! There are some nice looking rock sliders that have a more factory look than the tubular look, especially if you body match the paint.
You'll be glad you do even if you never use them off roading, they'll save your life and/or prevent a lot more damage if you ever get "T" boned in an accident. Ask me how I know... It happened to me and my sliders absolutely save my rig from a LOT more damage than if I didn't have them.

Also, there aren't really any KDSS guards.
Hi r2m, I've seen you around the forum, thanks for all the info that you're providing the community! On the MPG, that was a really crude guesstimate based on just what the fuel tank capacity is multiplied by the advertised MPG on CarGuru or something similar. I fully expect milage to not be that, and now go down with the KO3's. Haha.

I'm a little hesitant to do the BMC, but I had to do one on my 3rd Gen Tacoma so it's not completely foreign to me. The GX is just so perfect that I don't want to screw it up. I'm also really new to my area, and am not sure what shops to trust just yet. Back in AZ, it would have gone straight to SDHQ.

Thanks for all of the other recommendations. I definitely like the way the Victory panels look. I will never do a body lift. I've seen 1 too many brodozers flip over thinking that they were more capable than they really were, and I'm not interested in any of that. Lol.
 
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So.... that spreadsheet.... what type of engineering degree do you have? :)
Haha, no engineering degree. I am a project manager of sorts in the Insuretech space. In my previous career I lead a claims team and spent my life in spreadsheets and system data tables.
 
I like your taste in Lexus, and your methodology. I did something very similar prior to buying my 2015 GX 460 back in 2018. I built it out modestly but ultimately needed to sell it after a few pandemic-life changes. Now I am closing the deal on a '23 and should be picking it up next week if everything goes smoothly. Enjoy your truck. I look forward to seeing what you do with it!
 

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