@ Steve - what suspension kit are you running?
2013 LC200 w/ 285/70-17 BFG AT on TRD Wheels (1 Viewer)
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Hi Maujkar
Bilstein with Ridepro springs - kit pulled together by Darren from Auto-Craft in Geelong (Australia).
Auto-Craft
50 mm lift - very happy to date (14,000 km since fitting).
Daz has built a few tough 200s lately with 35's, replacement knuckles and diff gears, rear lockers and all the other good touring gear.
Cheers
Steve
Adelaide, Australia.
Bilstein with Ridepro springs - kit pulled together by Darren from Auto-Craft in Geelong (Australia).
Auto-Craft
50 mm lift - very happy to date (14,000 km since fitting).
Daz has built a few tough 200s lately with 35's, replacement knuckles and diff gears, rear lockers and all the other good touring gear.
Cheers
Steve
Adelaide, Australia.
thanks SteveM,
I thought all rigs in Australia normally get ARB or TJM kits ...lol..
how's the ride as compared to stock? If possible can you share your part no for Bilstein Shock (b6?) and Ridepro springs? Maybe I will give it a go but need to get things shipped to Saudi first
cheers
Maujkar
I thought all rigs in Australia normally get ARB or TJM kits ...lol..
how's the ride as compared to stock? If possible can you share your part no for Bilstein Shock (b6?) and Ridepro springs? Maybe I will give it a go but need to get things shipped to Saudi first
cheers
Maujkar
Hi,Just thought some of you might be interested in what my signature ride looks like:
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc18/gaijinnv/ToyotaLC200_1_19JAN13_zps85df5db6.jpg
Did you change the OEM lugs to install the TRD wheels?
I would have thought a difference in rolling circumference would be more of an issue under braking with different wheels at the front, with different braking forces potentially causing the vehicle to "pull" to the side with the smaller wheel. not sure this size difference would be enough to cause a noticeable difference, however...?
Using 1 differently sized tire is not likely to damage the diffs for short term emergency use. I would think however that it could cause other issues in panic stop or loss of control situations, that is why they are recommended for only temporary use.
As for the science behind choosing the correct tire pressure, I've took a more "test it and see"approach. With the car loaded for my normal load, I wet the tires and drive over some dust on a flat surface. This causes the dust to stick to the parts of the tire actually contacting the road, then you can see what the contact patch looks like.
On my new set of tires I noticed that the patch with dust on it only ended up being the middle 5 or so inches of tread at the recommended pressure. So I lowered the Psi a bit and this caused almost the entire width of the tread to make contact with the dust.
So the case of my 285's I ended up having a contact patch of 9 to 10 inches wide instead of 5 to 6 inches wide at the recommended pressure. This is on MT's.
Maybe that is not a good way to do it, but it seems like I should use more of the 11.2 inch width than I get at the recommended pressure.
Am I flirting with disaster?
As for the science behind choosing the correct tire pressure, I've took a more "test it and see"approach. With the car loaded for my normal load, I wet the tires and drive over some dust on a flat surface. This causes the dust to stick to the parts of the tire actually contacting the road, then you can see what the contact patch looks like.
On my new set of tires I noticed that the patch with dust on it only ended up being the middle 5 or so inches of tread at the recommended pressure. So I lowered the Psi a bit and this caused almost the entire width of the tread to make contact with the dust.
So the case of my 285's I ended up having a contact patch of 9 to 10 inches wide instead of 5 to 6 inches wide at the recommended pressure. This is on MT's.
Maybe that is not a good way to do it, but it seems like I should use more of the 11.2 inch width than I get at the recommended pressure.
Am I flirting with disaster?
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I should have mentioned I am talking about my 76 series. My 285s are 285/75/16. I don't remember the specific values (truck is at home, I am at work). But I think Toyota recommended 38psi with low load and I found that 34psi gave me much better road contact.
I realize that the pressure will be very different between the 200 and the 76, that is why I didn't mention pressure values in my original post. But the same concepts apply.
I realize that the pressure will be very different between the 200 and the 76, that is why I didn't mention pressure values in my original post. But the same concepts apply.
gaijin
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Certainly, the same concepts apply - and so does the same requirement for information to calculate the required recommended tire pressures.
I need the following info from the sticker on your DS door jamb:
What was the OEM tire size, were they P-Metric or LT tires, what was(were) the Toyota recommended tire pressure(s) Front and Rear, and what are the GAWR's Front and Rear.
I assume the new tires are LT285/75R16, but do you have any more info on these tires?
Give me the info and I'll give you the recommended tire pressure(s) that will provide a safe Load Limit for your new tires.
ETA:
The sticker will look similar to this:
My current tires are called "GT Radial Adventuro MT". They are LT285/75/R16 and indicate that they have a load rating of D. They were meant to be cheap temporary tires until I get my lift and go with 35 inch tires, but the lift has been delayed and I have been happy with the tire performance so far.
The stock tires that came from Toyota were Dunlop (Grand trek I think was the name), they were 265/70R16C.
Attached are the stickers by my driver door. They are different than on your 200.
The stock tires that came from Toyota were Dunlop (Grand trek I think was the name), they were 265/70R16C.
Attached are the stickers by my driver door. They are different than on your 200.
gaijin
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Thanks for all the info.
Based on that info it is difficult to make a definitive recommendation. The reason for that is because the lowest recommended inflation pressure for your LT285/75R16D tires is 35psi which results in a Load Limit which is higher than you require.
Anyway, the best I can offer is the following:
For a LOADED vehicle:
Front: 35*psi
Rear: 41psi
For an UNLOADED vehicle:
Front: 35*psi
Rear: 35*psi
*In reality, the best tire pressure should be somewhat less than 35psi with this tire on your vehicle - probably somewhere between 25psi and 30psi. The problem is that there is no Load Limit/Inflation Presuure data available that goes that low for those tires. You will need to experiment.
The 41psi number for a rear pressure when LOADED is, however, a solid number.
Sorry I couldn't be more definitive.
Thanks for the help!
Dimensions
Apologies if this is a rookie question, but does anyone know the total height with the TRD 17"wheels and BFG 285 70 R17s (including roof rails/ sat antenna)?
Originally, I was planning on a 2"OME lift with the 285 65 R18 BFGs on stock wheels, but my office garage has a low ceiling (6'8" or less) and it wont fit the extra 4-5 inches in height from this set up.
Hoping the TRD/ BFG set-up that Gaijin is rocking will be a workable option.
Looks awesome.
Apologies if this is a rookie question, but does anyone know the total height with the TRD 17"wheels and BFG 285 70 R17s (including roof rails/ sat antenna)?
Originally, I was planning on a 2"OME lift with the 285 65 R18 BFGs on stock wheels, but my office garage has a low ceiling (6'8" or less) and it wont fit the extra 4-5 inches in height from this set up.
Hoping the TRD/ BFG set-up that Gaijin is rocking will be a workable option.
Looks awesome.
gaijin
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No apologies necessary.
The stock height of the 200 Series is listed by Toyota as 76.2" (6'4.2") unladen with roof rails and crossbars and stock 285/60-18 tires.
I measure mine as 77" (6'5") unladen with roof rails and crossbars and 285/70-17 tires.
Since the stock tires are "officially" 31.5" in diameter and my BFG AT T/A tires are "officially" 32.8" in diameter, one would expect a height increase of 0.65", or from 76.2" to 76.85", when changing to the larger diameter tires, so my 77" measurement does not appear to be out of line.
Add 2" to that 77", however, and you are flirting with disaster if you are up against a "hard" 80" (6'8") of clearance.
Please note that in your case, the 285/65-18 BFG's you mentioned, have an "official" diameter of 32.7"- 0.1" smaller in diamter and therefore only 0.05" lower in height than the 285/70-17's. Essentially a wash.
My suggestion would be to choose the tires you like and check the actual clearance at your office garage before deciding whether to go ahead with the 2" lift.
Note: the sat antenna sits about 1" lower than the roof racks, so is not the limiting factor.
HTH
gaijin, i didn't quite get the above 80'' comment..can you please elaborate? thnx.
Thanks for the quick and thorough reply Gaijin!
Like you said, Ill probably just go with the rubber now, then see how much clearance I have in the garage before I do the lift.
Since the 285/65/18 is the same diameter as the 285/70/17, I guess it comes down to whether or not the appearance and ride quality with the taller sidewalls is worth investing it he 17" wheels. I assume you thought it was - anything that you think I should consider (aside from how good they look)?
Also - anyone know if the 32.7/ 32.8 BFG fits in the spare well underneath? I agree that the OEM would be fine for a spare, but would probably buy a matching spare if it fits.
Like you said, Ill probably just go with the rubber now, then see how much clearance I have in the garage before I do the lift.
Since the 285/65/18 is the same diameter as the 285/70/17, I guess it comes down to whether or not the appearance and ride quality with the taller sidewalls is worth investing it he 17" wheels. I assume you thought it was - anything that you think I should consider (aside from how good they look)?
Also - anyone know if the 32.7/ 32.8 BFG fits in the spare well underneath? I agree that the OEM would be fine for a spare, but would probably buy a matching spare if it fits.
I think Gaijin is referencing the ceiling height of my garage (6'8" or 80")
Your office garage is 6'8" or 80".
77" + 2" lift = 79" or 6'7". Considering that all of these measurements are somewhat approximate, the calculated height of your Cruiser with a 2" lift is dangerously close to the height of your office garage.
OK?
Got it thanks
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