200 or 100 series!! (1 Viewer)

[sdunham89]

With the used truck prices through the roof I am debating on selling my 2013 f150. As of now my wife has the 2013 lx570 for the 200 series needs. Now for the debate, find an older 200 to build and go on trips with the family or a buddy has a clean 100 that I could buy from him at a reasonable price. What are y’all’s thoughts?

 

[SF1911A1]

I have a 100 and a 200 in my driveway. I love the 100 but I find it far more limiting than the 200. The 200 I can tow pretty much anything and not worry about if it can handle it, the 100 not so much. If I could do it all over again I would have the newer 200 for the wife and a higher mileage 200 for me. You can’t really go wrong either way, but coming from someone with both, it’s a no brainer to go 200 if you can afford to do so.

 

[stonepa]

I have both. Id buy a really good 100 to build. Having to cut the plastic 200’s front bumper to mount a winch bumper just looks terrible to me. I love the pop out rear windows of the 100. I like the simpler electrics on my 98 100. Headlights on the 100 are glass and don’t yellow. I like that the 100 has a key rather than push button to start. The windshield in the 100 seems to be a lot stronger and hasn’t cracked on my 100 in my 23 years of ownership. And you can find 100 parts literally everywhere in the world, including most small towns outside of the US and Canada. I was in rural Jordan in 2019 and lirerally every single vehicle was either a brand new Hyundai or a 15 year old 100.

downsides of the 100? Less power. Lower towing capacity. That’s pretty much it.

i still drive my 100 after all these years. 440 k miles on the original engine and transmission and it still runs flawlessly. If i could get it out of Alaska i would drive it to Central America without a single worry.

A 200 does drive better but the 100 just seems like a better platform to build on.

 

[SF1911A1]

I have both. Id buy a really good 100 to build. Having to cut the plastic 200’s front bumper to mount a winch bumper just looks terrible to me. I love the pop out rear windows of the 100. I like the simpler electrics on my 98 100. Headlights on the 100 are glass and don’t yellow. I like that the 100 has a key rather than push button to start. The windshield in the 100 seems to be a lot stronger and hasn’t cracked on my 100 in my 23 years of ownership. And you can find 100 parts literally everywhere in the world, including most small towns outside of the US and Canada. I was in rural Jordan in 2019 and lirerally every single vehicle was either a brand new Hyundai or a 15 year old 100.

downsides of the 100? Less power. Lower towing capacity. That’s pretty much it.

i still drive my 100 after all these years. 440 k miles on the original engine and transmission and it still runs flawlessly. If i could get it out of Alaska i would drive it to Central America without a single worry.

A 200 does drive better but the 100 just seems like a better platform to build on.

Cutting the bumper wasn’t bad, just take your time and shave it down bit by bit. I put a 3M clear protective film over the headlights and they haven’t yellowed at all since that day. The yellowing it from microscopic road debris getting lodged in the plastic, not age. I have no input on the windshield as neither one has broken on me. The lower power both for everyday driving as well as towing is a big factor for me as I have more trailers than I do vehicles, but that may not be important to the OP. 100 vs 200 is a win-win scenario.

 

[sdunham89]

Right now leaning towards the 100 due to simplicity and price from a friend. It will be my daily and adventure trips with my boys. We just got back from a week around ouray telluride, Durango got me looking at all of the sweet 100s around that area.

 

[CharlieS]

I’ve owned 80s, a 100 and two 200s. I liked the 100 the least of all of them. For day to day, I’d go 200 series all day long. For a trail vehicle, I’d go with an 80.

 

[300blk]

200 series prices are also through the roof. You might get a killer deal selling your Ford, but you’re not going to find a great deal on a used 200. Especially now that Toyota has discontinued the Land Cruiser.

 

[300blk]

The prices are insane rn.

 

[txtortoise]

I’m with Patrick. I have both (LXs), and if you already have a 200, then the 100 ‘at a good price’ is appealing. As long as not towing 4K loads, it handles lighter than my 200, interior leather is better, love the venting rear windows, and I think the interior ergonomics are better, e.g., switches molded for touch without having to guess which similar button does what in the dark.

Just be sure and do your heater (T's) hoses first

 

[SF1911A1]

200 series prices are also through the roof. You might get a killer deal selling your Ford, but you’re not going to find a great deal on a used 200. Especially now that Toyota has discontinued the Land Cruiser.

This is an excellent point that I forgot about. I paid $38k for my 2013 with 75k miles in 2018. What I’m seeing in the used market leaves me speechless. I could not justify paying the premium that exists on the 200’s right now.

 

[stonepa]

I’m with Patrick. I have both (LXs), and if you already have a 200, then the 100 ‘at a good price’ is appealing. As long as not towing 4K loads, it handles lighter than my 200, interior leather is better, love the venting rear windows, and I think the interior ergonomics are better, e.g., switches molded for touch without have to guess which similar button does what in the dark.

Just be sure and do your heater hoses first

Yep. Heater Ts, starter, timing belt, water pump. Good for another 100k miles.

 

[bloc]

Agree with the above. If you didn’t already have a 200 that’s one thing. But a built 100 won’t be leaving much on the table for trail use.. and “at a good price” is a particularly valuable thing right now.

I just checked and could sell my 2013 that I bought 3 years and ***60k*** miles ago for more than I paid. This is just ridiculous.

 

[sdunham89]

Thanks guys, yeah everyone brings up great points. I already have a sensor lift and tundra take off on the lx. I don’t drive too much due to work 28 days at a time. It
Is impressive the prices that the 200 are getting, we got her lx for 38,000 with only 55,000 miles with a warranty until 90,000.

 

[tbisaacs]

I think the 100 series looks timeless but would never own anything torsion bars again. They ride like garbage and have so little travel.

 

[TeCKis300]

Having owned a 100-series and 200-series, I tend to agree with the others that the 100-series may be a great platform for a trail rig. Slightly tidier dimensions, great visibility, and feels a bit more agile. Though I do believe the 200-series is objectively better and stronger.

Digging around the interwebs, here's some key numbers. There's some variations depending on year and trim, but tried to find the better numbers for each.

100-series vs 200-series
Approach Angle: 33 deg 32 deg
Departure Angle: 23 deg 24 deg
BreakOver Angle: 25 deg 23 deg
Roll Over Angle: 45 deg 42 deg
RTI 20deg. ramp: 548 661
Turning radius: 39.7ft 38.7ft
Width: 76.4" 78"
Wheelbase: 112.2" 112.2"
Length: 192.5" 194.9"
Curb Weight: 5390lbs 5716lbs

I'm not sure torsion bars ride necessarily worse. They were great on my LX470 and rode like a cloud. Some cool things like the ability to adjust height with simple cranks on the torsion bars. I think one limitation of the 100-series is its front suspension travel @7.5" (only when compared to the 200-series @9"). Though it's still descent compared to 4Rs, FJs, etc., and limited front articulation can be dealt with via lockers and such. I do like the more mechanical nature of some key things like transfer case, with overall less complex electronics. Make sure to upgrade the front diff carrier if going for an earlier model year 100-series as the two spider gear variants were known to go like popcorn.