1984 Toyota Camry / Vista with 1.8l turbo diesel 1C (2 Viewers)

[loafduck]

thanks man the images are a great help in getting an idea of where things are in the engine bay. i was thinking i was gonna have to crawl behind the engine to even get the injector pump out..

fortunetly i got the tools for the most part and the time while i finish up college and a garage i can use on request. i cant keep the car in there longer than a weekend though. i dont know how rusty it is. it has orgeon plates in the picture so it might be kinda rusty. crossing my fingers its not 2 bad. and i have no experiance with diesel injectors or diesels in general

so wish me luck

• To be honest this is my first Toyota diesel so I can't talk specifics on rebuilding that.
  ** I'm pretty sure the injector pump is being turned from the timing belt, actually I'm positive it is....So, does that mean the timing belt needs to come off to remove and work on injector pump? Probably. So if that's true the repair has escalated to being a bit more complicated
• How rusty is it?
• Shouldn't it still run even with a leaky pump?

Will need to see if some Toyota diesel folks can chime in. If you don't get any action here considering creating your own post asking for info on rebuilding a fuel pump. I believe several other toyota diesel motors use a similar style setup



I'll post a few below of what I already have but will take more later today when I get back from work. This car like many transverse motors can be a bit of a knuckle buster to work on. Personally I haven't had the confidence enough to do the timing belt but I also don't have a garage and work on a gravel driver... most other stuff around the motor is accessible, but it seems like you have always have to remove a bunch of stuff to get to what you need...So this all depends on your level of skill and time and space to work

You can see the injector pump in this photo to the right of the timing cover
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[Mike NXP]

thanks man the images are a great help in getting an idea of where things are in the engine bay. i was thinking i was gonna have to crawl behind the engine to even get the injector pump out..

fortunetly i got the tools for the most part and the time while i finish up college and a garage i can use on request. i cant keep the car in there longer than a weekend though. i dont know how rusty it is. it has orgeon plates in the picture so it might be kinda rusty. crossing my fingers its not 2 bad. and i have no experiance with diesel injectors or diesels in general

so wish me luck

Probably not too rusty if its up in Oregon, especially along the coast.....How much$$$

I've got the 1C service manual and will post info on anything injector pump related....

I believe it will be a bit of a bitch especially if timing belt is coming off, not to mention once that's off you might as well do that + water pump.... i'm not 100% sure if it has to but will learn more about it today and report back

 

[loafduck]

thanks man the images are a great help in getting an idea of where things are in the engine bay. i was thinking i was gonna have to crawl behind the engine to even get the injector pump out..

fortunetly i got the tools for the most part and the time while i finish up college and a garage i can use on request. i cant keep the car in there longer than a weekend though. i dont know how rusty it is. it has orgeon plates in the picture so it might be kinda rusty. crossing my fingers its not 2 bad. and i have no experiance with diesel injectors or diesels in general

so wish me luck

also i have not seen the vehicle in person yet unfortunetly. i wont be able to until tuesday or wednesday next week. i will be inspecting for rust throughly in the frame and engine bay. i might be able to get it for free or at least cheap as hell he seems to want the thing off his hands

 

[loafduck]

Probably not too rusty if its up in Oregon, especially along the coast.....How much$$$

I've got the 1C service manual and will post info on anything injector pump related....

I believe it will be a bit of a bitch especially if timing belt is coming off, not to mention once that's off you might as well do that + water pump.... i'm not 100% sure if it has to but will learn more about it today and report back

 

[loafduck]

Probably not too rusty if its up in Oregon, especially along the coast.....How much$$$

I've got the 1C service manual and will post info on anything injector pump related....

I believe it will be a bit of a bitch especially if timing belt is coming off, not to mention once that's off you might as well do that + water pump.... i'm not 100% sure if it has to but will learn more about it today and report back

your post on this car has been a great help ive read the thread and found out many things i didnt know. or thought would be hard to find

 

[loafduck]

Probably not too rusty if its up in Oregon, especially along the coast.....How much$$$

I've got the 1C service manual and will post info on anything injector pump related....

I believe it will be a bit of a bitch especially if timing belt is coming off, not to mention once that's off you might as well do that + water pump.... i'm not 100% sure if it has to but will learn more about it today and report back

i could get the camry for less than 1k or even $300-$500

 

[AirheadNut]

An injector pump rebuild is not something I would recommend diy’ing unless you’re a very competent mechanic with a lot of specialized equipment. You’ll be much better off sending it to a shop that specializes in diesel fuel systems, DFIS in Portland, OR would be a good option. Given that it is a Toyota/Denso pump (probably a licensed Bosch design) I would be surprised if they couldn’t do it.

 

[loafduck]

An injector pump rebuild is not something I would recommend diy’ing unless you’re a very competent mechanic with a lot of specialized equipment. You’ll be much better off sending it to a shop that specializes in diesel fuel systems, DFIS in Portland, OR would be a good option. Given that it is a Toyota/Denso pump (probably a licensed Bosch design) I would be surprised if they couldn’t do it.

me and the car are in california. and your right i probly should pay to get that redone still thinking it over. if i have to mail it to get it fixed i would. but i would rather not

 

[AirheadNut]

Injection pump rebuilding is a specialized industry, you might find a qualified shop locally that would do it but it is more likely you'll have to ship it to a competent shop. There are only a few shops in the US that I would trust with an injection pump, especially with a relatively rare vintage Toyota one. Apart from DFIS there is a shop in Texas I can't recall the name of, Giles Galley in Ontario, Canada specializes in old VW pumps which will be very similar to the Toyota one you have.

 

[loafduck]

Injection pump rebuilding is a specialized industry, you might find a qualified shop locally that would do it but it is more likely you'll have to ship it to a competent shop. There are only a few shops in the US that I would trust with an injection pump, especially with a relatively rare vintage Toyota one. Apart from DFIS there is a shop in Texas I can't recall the name of, Giles Galley in Ontario, Canada specializes in old VW pumps which will be very similar to the Toyota one you have.

what would be the price range on the rebuild? so i can plan for it if i get the car

 

[sodafeld1]

what would be the price range on the rebuild? so i can plan for it if i get the car

I paid $2500 aud for a 2h injection pump rebuild a year and a half ago in oz.

This may interest you.

 

[loafduck]

$1600 USD????? thats more than im paying for the vehicle i thought it would be like $500? it might be cheaper if i get it done in the usa where i live. thanks for the video recomendation though

 

[Eurasiaoverland]

I paid $2500 aud for a 2h injection pump rebuild a year and a half ago in oz.

This may interest you.

The Camry injection pump is a rotary type, so rebuilding is quite dfferent, possibly more expensive.

Given that the injection pump will be around 40 years old, it's likely to have leaks from more than one place, and more in the near future. If you are mechanically competent and can work carefully in a clean environment, you can change some of the seals yourself without needing to recalibtrate the pump. Others involve dismantling assemblies which are calibrated in a diesel lab. You may get away with marking things and putting them back how they were, but you will never know if the engine is really runnung correctly. Or you may get things wrong and have settings way off.

At a minimum, you should get a FSM (the 80 Series 1HD-T pump will be procedurally almost identical to the Camry pump), familiarise yourself in detail with what is what on the pump, preferably with the pump removed from the engine and sat in front of you.

 

[sodafeld1]

my bad, didn't realise rotary. Either way, pretty dark voodoo to play with in my eyes. But some folks here do amazing things!
When I brought my pump in the diesel specialist said the last customer brought his pump in a 100 pieces already dismantled. Gave it a go and gave up.
Yes, an irony costs more to fix than the value of the car.

 

[loafduck]

The Camry injection pump is a rotary type, so rebuilding is quite dfferent, possibly more expensive.

Given that the injection pump will be around 40 years old, it's likely to have leaks from more than one place, and more in the near future. If you are mechanically competent and can work carefully in a clean environment, you can change some of the seals yourself without needing to recalibtrate the pump. Others involve dismantling assemblies which are calibrated in a diesel lab. You may get away with marking things and putting them back how they were, but you will never know if the engine is really runnung correctly. Or you may get things wrong and have settings way off.

At a minimum, you should get a FSM (the 80 Series 1HD-T pump will be procedurally almost identical to the Camry pump), familiarise yourself in detail with what is what on the pump, preferably with the pump removed from the engine and sat in front of you.

from what the owner has told me the pump is Visibly leaking so it might just be the (pump housing?) seals that are leaking

 

[Eurasiaoverland]

from what the owner has told me the pump is Visibly leaking so it might just be the (pump housing?) seals that are

Those are the seals I am talking about.

 

[loafduck]

Those are the seals I am talking about.

i hope it is those seals then bc then i trust myself enought to replace those

 

[Dirt Bomb]

with all of the trucking and ag in the central valley you should be able to find a decent injection shop not too far from you,