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Yep, it is a sheet metal brake that can fold shallow boxes and pans. Been wanting one for a long time and this one ticked almost all the boxes. Was too good a price to turn down.
IH 1969 Loadstar 1700 Shop Truck Build (1 Viewer)
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Sweet, that should come in handy.....I used to work at a glass shop out of high school and they had this huge metal brake. It was like at least 6 feet long and it had this long pedal down below that two people would have to like stomp on to make the magic happen .... I remember being sort of scared when using it at first thought for sure I'd end up like that guy in scary movie
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That sounds like a stomp shear. I'd love to get one of those too but there is no way I'd fit it in my 140 sq ft "shop"!
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Remounted my electrical panel in preparation for the new generator install:
Picked up a 25' Nema l14-30 extension cord to go from the generator to the electrical panel. The plan is to hardwire the cord into the panel and leave a short service loop at the generator end so it can be easily unplugged in case the generator needs to be removed from the truck. Could also be used for shore power in case that ever becomes necessary. Also got a new starter battery for the generator since the one that came with it was toast. Unfortunately I got one with the wrong type of terminals so that will have to be exchanged.
Picked up a 25' Nema l14-30 extension cord to go from the generator to the electrical panel. The plan is to hardwire the cord into the panel and leave a short service loop at the generator end so it can be easily unplugged in case the generator needs to be removed from the truck. Could also be used for shore power in case that ever becomes necessary. Also got a new starter battery for the generator since the one that came with it was toast. Unfortunately I got one with the wrong type of terminals so that will have to be exchanged.
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Got the finger brake unloaded from the Prado and mounted to its stand. The stand is fairly large (30"x42" footprint) so I put a shelf on the bottom to store more tools.
Used my landlord's backhoe with bale spears to fork the stand and load it into the back of the Loadstar. Luckily the spacing on the bale spears was just right to get two through the finger brake stand and the other slipped just on the outside of the box.
Some reorganizing was necessary to get the thing in its home, I still have some boxes of tools and parts that I'll need to find new homes for.
Later in the evening I moved the truck over to the shop apron to jack the front end up and investigate what it will take to get to the leaky front wheel cylinder. Got the wheel off and the dust cap off the axle nut but it was getting late (and cold) and I didn't feel like proceeding any further. Tomorrow afternoon is supposed to be pretty warm so hopefully I'll be able to rebuild the wheel cylinder and get it all back together.
Used my landlord's backhoe with bale spears to fork the stand and load it into the back of the Loadstar. Luckily the spacing on the bale spears was just right to get two through the finger brake stand and the other slipped just on the outside of the box.
Some reorganizing was necessary to get the thing in its home, I still have some boxes of tools and parts that I'll need to find new homes for.
Later in the evening I moved the truck over to the shop apron to jack the front end up and investigate what it will take to get to the leaky front wheel cylinder. Got the wheel off and the dust cap off the axle nut but it was getting late (and cold) and I didn't feel like proceeding any further. Tomorrow afternoon is supposed to be pretty warm so hopefully I'll be able to rebuild the wheel cylinder and get it all back together.
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Brake day. I've dealt with quite a few drum brake systems but never one this big. Everything was quite heavy and extremely dirty from all the leaking brake fluid. Getting it all torn down wasn't too difficult though, apart from dealing with the brake shoe springs.
I had planned on only rebuilding one cylinder but had purchased two rebuild kits just in case; once I got the drum off it became obvious that while only one cylinder had leaked, the other wasn't far off. Fortunately both cylinders were ok apart from a bit of crud built up inside, a quick hone cleaned them up nicely. New cylinders are NLA for this truck, so I was very happy to see the bores shine up nicely on both of them. The shoes and drum were both soaking with brake fluid, it took two cans of brake cleaner to clean them up. Overall, apart from the fluid everywhere things looked pretty good. Lots of pad left, the drum was in good shape, and the wheel bearings looked really nice still.
Another fight with the brake shoe springs to get everything back together. I'm not sure if this was necessary but I put a dab of grease on each end of each brake shoe where it rests on the cylinders. I also thoroughly re-greased the wheel bearings before putting the drum and hub back on just to be on the safe side.
Back on its wheels! I haven't bled the brakes yet; thinking I should probably have a look at the brakes on the other side, they can't be too much different and might as well get them rebuilt now so I don't have to bleed the system twice.
I had planned on only rebuilding one cylinder but had purchased two rebuild kits just in case; once I got the drum off it became obvious that while only one cylinder had leaked, the other wasn't far off. Fortunately both cylinders were ok apart from a bit of crud built up inside, a quick hone cleaned them up nicely. New cylinders are NLA for this truck, so I was very happy to see the bores shine up nicely on both of them. The shoes and drum were both soaking with brake fluid, it took two cans of brake cleaner to clean them up. Overall, apart from the fluid everywhere things looked pretty good. Lots of pad left, the drum was in good shape, and the wheel bearings looked really nice still.
Another fight with the brake shoe springs to get everything back together. I'm not sure if this was necessary but I put a dab of grease on each end of each brake shoe where it rests on the cylinders. I also thoroughly re-greased the wheel bearings before putting the drum and hub back on just to be on the safe side.
Back on its wheels! I haven't bled the brakes yet; thinking I should probably have a look at the brakes on the other side, they can't be too much different and might as well get them rebuilt now so I don't have to bleed the system twice.
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The little crane on the back of the truck has come in handy again. A couple of extra lengths of pipe make a nice extension. I still need to tie it in to the wall for support, until then a ratchet strap from the interior load rail to the flatbed trailer helps take the load.
yeah, that ratchet straps not ghetto at all.... lol jk man looks like you're having fun out there... Little crane action definitely comes in handy
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A bit of extra house power for the shop truck. Picked up 4x 100Ah sealed gel batteries and a 2000W pure sine inverter/charger. Will do AC/DC and DC/DC charging. The whole lot came out of a new camper, the owner switched to lithium batteries and sold this lot for $350.
A lift gate would be nice to have on this truck. Great deal on the batteries and charger.
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It actually has half a lift gate, the hydraulics and lift arm are all present and working, just needs the parallel arms and a folding platform. Apparently the original seized up on the previous owner so he cut it off. I would love to find a replacement, but barring that I plan to eventually build a basic platform for it.
**** yeah nice score.... I need to get myself shop garage truck lol
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Refer truck - heavy equipment - by owner - sale - craigslist
1985 International Diesel refer 16ft. van with hydraulic lift gate. 2 cylinder diesel powered refer manual transmission with 2sp. rear axle. Tires are great with disc brakes on all four 140,000...
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Finally got around to pulling apart the RH front brake, was pleasantly surprised to find the wheel cylinders in really good shape. Looks like they were replaced sometime in the not too distant past (at least relative to how old the truck is). I decided to just repack the wheel bearings and put it back together.
An oil change was also in order. My drain pan very nearly overflowed, but was just able to keep up.
This truck appears to have the larger oil sump and big filter, it took just shy of 9 quarts to refill.
After the oil change I put fresh fluid in the brake master cylinder and slowly pumped the pedal for about 5 minutes. Both the master cylinder and booster cylinder seem to have self bled doing that, I was able to get a decent pedal feel and reasonable stopping power back. Still need to bleed each wheel, but for now I can move the truck around the yard without fear of crashing into something.
An oil change was also in order. My drain pan very nearly overflowed, but was just able to keep up.
This truck appears to have the larger oil sump and big filter, it took just shy of 9 quarts to refill.
After the oil change I put fresh fluid in the brake master cylinder and slowly pumped the pedal for about 5 minutes. Both the master cylinder and booster cylinder seem to have self bled doing that, I was able to get a decent pedal feel and reasonable stopping power back. Still need to bleed each wheel, but for now I can move the truck around the yard without fear of crashing into something.
You sonova bitch, gotta stop sending me Craigslist ads lol gunna get my wife to divorce me soon.....
Refer truck - heavy equipment - by owner - sale - craigslist
1985 International Diesel refer 16ft. van with hydraulic lift gate. 2 cylinder diesel powered refer manual transmission with 2sp. rear axle. Tires are great with disc brakes on all four 140,000...kalispell.craigslist.org
The listing made a good point, cheaper than a shed....I like that argument, will see if it works
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Nice work your rolling shop. I've got to go back to the beginning of this thread and refresh my memory....didn't you drive that thing home from like really far away lol?
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Ha! In all seriousness, I wouldn’t recommend it. Really it just ends up being another needy, old vehicle to take care of. I had an unusual set of circumstances that made it make slightly more sense than normal. Not an easy thing to work out of, especially when I’m working on one of my cars, but it’s better than nothing for tool storage.
It wasn’t all that far for normal driving, I bought the truck in Hamilton and drove it to Bozeman, normally a 4:45 drive, it took over 7 hours on the way back and I burned about 60 gallons of gas. Certainly an experience pulling hills at 18mph empty!
Hopefully you installed new hub seals as well. They were obviously leaking.
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Unfortunately not, I didn't have them on hand and needed to get the truck back on its wheels by evening. The seal wasn't leaking too bad, I had just sprayed the inside of the drum and the pads down with brake cleaner before I took the photos, so it looks wetter than it was. Fortunately the truck won't see more than a hundred miles or so per year, so I'll just keep an eye on them.
Generally on these type of things i go ahead and replace everything rubber that contacts brake fluid.
We have a shop semi locally who can reline brake shoes, rebuild brake hoses, and they can find most any cylinder rebuild kit you might need.
New master cylinder should still be available and cheap.
Id buy one just to be on the safe side...
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Luckily the master cylinder and booster cylinder both seem to function just fine, so I'm probably going to leave them as is for now. Before the front wheel cylinders started leaking the truck actually stopped really well, almost too well. Never actually locked any wheels up, but I bet it would have in an emergency type stop. The soft lines from the frame to the front wheels are pretty old, so I will probably swap those out if I can find something that fits. Overall not terribly worried about it, the truck hasn't left the property since last summer and probably won't travel more than about 10-15 miles from home at any given time. It only does about 48mph anyway, so not too difficult to stop.
Still need to make a mount for the new generator, but I did make up a bunch of cables for my battery bank. Hooked it up to a 2000W inverter to try out, eventually when I permanently mount the batteries I'll wire up the 50A charger/2000W inverter they came with. I also have a cheap fuse and relay box that will get used for powering lights and any other 12v accessories I end up needing inside.
Still need to make a mount for the new generator, but I did make up a bunch of cables for my battery bank. Hooked it up to a 2000W inverter to try out, eventually when I permanently mount the batteries I'll wire up the 50A charger/2000W inverter they came with. I also have a cheap fuse and relay box that will get used for powering lights and any other 12v accessories I end up needing inside.
