12volt winch on 24 volt truck ??

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try it and let me know how it works.

i burnt out a brand new low profile after 3 heavy pulls so running it on 24V might not be a good thing...

Wedg3, sounds logical ... thanks.
 
So 24 volts guys tell me this... My bj42 made it to my house yesterday and it has two 12 volt batterys in seiries to make one big as 24 bolt battery.... So if bolt my 12 volt accessories to one battery won't they just get 12 volts ??? Do all the truck have this or should I have two 24 volt batterys ??? Man this truck is fine I even got a 24 volt trouble light
 
yes, by attaching your 12V accessories to one battery you will have 12V power going to them

but

that gives unequal discharge and the charging system will not recognise the one battery getting low so it doesn't charged seperately. the charging system will either over charge the 2nd battery or undercharge the "12V" battery.

NOT recommended.
 
If anyone cares....

one of the main (other than being beefy as hell) reasons the 8274 can run at the higher voltage (for those lucky enough to have a good motor and solenoids) is where the motor is located. Heat is our biggest problem here from the resistance of the higher voltage, and therefore higher current draw... ie what Wedg3 wrote.

Since the 8274 is upright, the motor is literally able to cool easier. This is strictly the Engineering behind the system. The reality does come down to whether they are good parts and whether it was made on a Monday. But a good test for this would be to try the 8274 in the dead of a Manitoba winter and see how it runs..which I may just have to do ;)
....or...you could just really know how to operate a winch like Wayne and be smart about it. CYA!!!
 
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Dear Folks.

I found this side trough google. I saw also that this trhread is allready older. But my question is about the results of you winch tests. i like to use my 12 v Superwich on Load with 24 Volts. My Voltage is of course 12 V (Mercedes G Modell). I plan to switch two Batteries during normal operation paralel (Double the Load. And during Full Load of the Winch Switching the Batteries in Line trough solnoids.

I will yuse the winch for Trophys. For me is the Speed important.

but the question is now about your expiriense...

i hope my english is god enough. Sorry about mistakes.
 
I got all the parts to convert my 8274 to 24 volt will post pics
 
Caesar, the word is a 12V Warn 8274 will pull like a barracuda with 24Vs. However, I have not hear of others running 24Vs on other 12V winches.

I did it with a Ramsey 8k. Worked very well for the few pulls I made. Moved it to a 12v truck, used it once and then it quit. Still haven't looked in to why.
 
So 24 volts guys tell me this... My bj42 made it to my house yesterday and it has two 12 volt batterys in seiries to make one big as 24 bolt battery.... So if bolt my 12 volt accessories to one battery won't they just get 12 volts ??? Do all the truck have this or should I have two 24 volt batterys ??? Man this truck is fine I even got a 24 volt trouble light

You would be replacing batteries due to unequally charging them. In fact every time you winch you can expect the truck not to crank a few days weeks later....

get a 24V winch....there are no other way, last thing you want is a unreliable winch.....get a 24V winch on a 24V truck. Unless you are simply doing a winching competition..
 
try it and let me know how it works.

and will a early w-8274 12v motor suit for a w-8000?..
is not a splined one, but think it can be machined to...

would it be powerfull enough?
thought that it might be less powerfull than the original one of the M8000....?

any help?

and sorry for hi-jacking the thread...:o
 
I tried my 8274 24v motor on 12v solenoids before switching to the Allbright. It lasted 2 pulls, trying to get up a steep incline on shale rock. The solenoids were ancient mind you.
 
I tried my 8274 24v motor on 12v solenoids before switching to the Allbright. It lasted 2 pulls, trying to get up a steep incline on shale rock. The solenoids were ancient mind you.

All things being equal, I don't think the issue would be solenoid. The solinoid is just a big coil. If it can take 450 amps at 12V, then it should have no problem handling 225 amps at 24V. Usually your amperage is cut in half to do the same work at 24V. I guess to see if that is true then you would need to put an amp gauge inline and see what the difference is on a 12V winch when 12V is applied verses 24V.
 
All things being equal, I don't think the issue would be solenoid. The solinoid is just a big coil. If it can take 450 amps at 12V, then it should have no problem handling 225 amps at 24V. Usually your amperage is cut in half to do the same work at 24V. I guess to see if that is true then you would need to put an amp gauge inline and see what the difference is on a 12V winch when 12V is applied verses 24V.

A coil sounds like a light bulb and 12v bulbs do poorly with 24v! They draw the amperage they want, except it's at 24v.

I struggle with this topic, electricity, but it is certainly an interesting subject.
 
and sorry for hi-jacking the thread...:o

No hijack I got a 8274 for free that needed motor and solenoids ... So I ordered 24 volt stuff to rebuild it... Keep the thread alive and the info flowing
 
All this talk of running 12 V accessories on 24 V listed equipment floors me, Would you attempt to run 500Hp to a driveline that was designed for 250 HP??, sure it will work , for a while, you will have zero reliability ( not what we want with a winch ). There is more than just the DC resistance of the motors that is different, the actual reluctance and reactance of the motors will be different, so simply putting a resistance in series as one person suggested would have little effect on longevity of motor. In fact at light load the resistance would be negligible and the motor would over rev., would spin fast creating an opposing EMF which limits the current. It is this reactance that in fact continually changes the effective resistance that allows the motor to draw low current at low load ( high RPM ) and high current at low RPM. The coils in the rotor have a certain mass and will begin to move outwards due to centrifugal force, they are designed for a max RPM that would appear to have been clearly surpassed in the photos of the earlier posts. I agree with Crushers that playing with 24 on 12 motors is fun, but not reliable. I had a small jeep for my son years back ,, the 2 x 6V batteries eventually died, replacement 6V batteries were expensive and I had a source of Free 12V ideally sized batteries…. The Jeep ( sorry to use that name on hear ) was now supercharged !! with a low and high speed switch now 12 or 24 as opposed to 6 V/12V. The poor boy pressed the gas paddle and the truck would pull a wheelie and actually flip over, once he mastered that it was a riot for ~ 1 month until the switches burnt out, then the braking resistors failed ( reverse generation on letting of gas pedal ) and finally the motors packed it in, But WAS A BLAST while it lasted. My point, 24 V to 12 V to most devices won’t last, Period !
 
i wouldn't try it will anything but the warn 8274 old style ...
but
it does work and for a long time ... in my case. hard short pulls, long hard pulls, long gentle pulls ... nothing seems to affect it ... except mud. which will kill a 12V running on 12Vs.

play at own risk.
 
12 volt winch on 24 volt truck

Over here in AUSTRALIA we deliberately wire up a seperate 24 volt system on our rigs to run our 8274's in competions and hard social trips, as long as you don't hold the "IN" button on while it's got no load or power out without "pulsing" every few seconds to prevent the motor over "speeding" it should be pretty reliable. The benefits are definetly worth it once your stuck big time plus the time savings are noticeable. :flipoff2:
 
After my 24volt Mile Marker 9500 died I was SOL to find another 24 volt unit, so I bought a new 12 volt Rough Country 9500SI from a guy on Kijiji for cheap. I decided to try it and see how it goes. I wired a 5 ohm resistor to the ground of the Solenoid which drops the voltage across both poles, in and out to 12volts. I used one that you purchase to add to you blinker if you change the bulb to LED so it still blinks. It's pulled me out of many jams and I used it lot's to pull trees out of the bush after felling them and even after a long pull I can still put bare skin on the motor and not get burned. It get's warm yes but nothing over the top. I've used it for the past three years and it's still running great. I haven't pulled it apart to see what the insides look like but so far so good.

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