100's to Cruise Moab 2013

[3rd Cruiser]

<--- There. Leading San Rafael Swell Overnighter Tues-Thurs, vendor night Thursday and relaxing Friday/Saturday

So Kurt, are you leading the 2 day trip with your 40 or the new 100? You know you want to kick up the comfort level

 

[jonharis]

Me Tiff and the girls will be there!

Leading the Kokopelli overnight. Would love to see a couple of 100s on the run!

 

[jonharis]

Do you guys bring the family? My kids would enjoy the campfire and marshmallow.

Lots of kids will be there.

Yes, family friendly event with understanding trail leaders. Get those kids out there to see the world! You will truly be making lifetime memories for them.

 

[3rd Cruiser]

Me Tiff and the girls will be there!

Leading the Kokopelli overnight. Would love to see a couple of 100s on the run!

I'm going back and forth between Kokopelli and the Swell. I've been on the 2 day swell before (2011), but I'm not sure about the water crossing on Kokopelli. Looks a bit deep, snorkle depth?

Is bluecruiser going to be helping you out? Be great to wheel with both of you again.

 

[jonharis]

I'm going back and forth between Kokopelli and the Swell. I've been on the 2 day swell before (2011), but I'm not sure about the water crossing on Kokopelli. Looks a bit deep, snorkle depth?

Is bluecruiser going to be helping you out? Be great to wheel with both of you again.

They are both incredible runs! Kurt and Gang's nightlife extraordinaire is unmatched. As you know the San Rafael is base camp oriented while the Kokopelli continues to move each night. Both have incredible scenery and IMO both are a must do. The water crossing is completely optional and not actually part of the route. It is a mile or so off of our route and will be assessed when we get there. Depending on spring runoff it can vary from 1.5 to 5' deep.

 

[3rd Cruiser]

Jonathan, thanks for the clarification on the water crossing. Waiting for registration to open

 

[jonharis]

Just noticed that registration is now open to the general public. Good Luck and Have Fun.

http://www.cruisemoab.com/register.aspx

 

[philthyphil]

So, folks always said "no such thing as a stupid question, just stupid people" but here goes...

Pretty familiar with the Moab territory as I lived in Durango and Junction almost 10 years combined. I also know this event can be pretty family friendly, but I'm at an impass, our first daughter will only be a little over 6 months old and the wife and I are curious about the bouncing around the little on will take. We are on the adventurous side as far as trying to get our daughter out in to the world but we don't want to give her brain damage from all the bouncing. We have no problem walking obstacles with her as the hundy bounces through, but I know some trails have longer rougher sections. So I guess I'm wondering what folks WITH kids have done. Jon Haris, I know you wheel with your twins but when did you start? Are we premature at this age? Advice welcome from all!

Thanks in advance!

 

[jonharis]

Excellent questions and very important things to take very seriously. First I am not a doctor and not giving advice but will give you my opinion. My wife is an RN and works in OB and NICU so she's at least a little more versed than I am. In addition she has friends that are Peds and discusses things like this with them often. We first had our girls of road at 4 months old. We did Engineer Pass near Ouray. We used towels and blankets to brace their necks and of course drove slower and steadier than normal. They were 11 months old at their first CM. That year we ran the San Rafael Porcupine and Poision Spider. We still took it as easy as possible. most infants can hold their heads up well at 6 months. I would recommend any of the lower rated trails and don't think you would have any issue. Just be careful and cognizant of what's going on with them. The Arches Run, Chicken Corners, Even fins-nfhings would be great pics. Actually Fins and Hell's where there is very little bouncing around would be great. They are short trails where you tend to drive at very slow steady speeds with fineness in your movements.

You may consider only doing a couple of runs and spending the rest of the time socializing, swimming, eating etc. there is so much to do that a lot of people will purposely take a day off.

As far as safety goes, infant in properly installed car seats are much safer from general harm in accidents or rollovers etc than any one else in a vehicle. There is a reason they call rear facing car seats orphan makers.

Ultimately the choice is yours and probably worth discussing with your Ped. That said many of them probably have no clue what off roading is like and may envision mud bogging and extreme crawling.

Good Luck!

 

[philthyphil]

Thanks for the info Jon, I will not sue you if we decide to go and something doesn't go as planned. I like to believe we still live in a world where people take responsibility for there own actions, but it's becoming less likely.

Rant over...

Somebody on here has a quote in their sig from Twain that says "knowledge without experience is just information" that's why I reached out to you and the group. Wife is also a nurse, (we actually met while we were working at St. Mary's) so we get lots of opinions, I was looking for real life data. So thank you, and future respondents.

 

[paflytyer]

Jon wheels with his kids more than anyone I know, so his advice is very solid. We waited a little longer than most to take our kids. We have 4 year old twin girls and our son is 6. Our girls didn't go off road til they were almost 3, but I had my son out on mild trails when he was 2. We used Britax car sets because we felt they offered the best neck/head protection from the bouncing. Even at 2 years old I still put a small neck pillow behind my sons head to protect side to side jarring.

Now when he wheels with me, I can't keep him awake! He slept through our entire Spooky Night Run this year. He absolutely loves coming with me, loves talking to other kids on the radio during family runs, loves camping and everything outdoors. It's pretty darn special.

I think short easy trails would be fine. But there's always the possibility of car sickness, diaper changes, needing to eat and so on. you'll know what's right/best as you start moving. If it doesn't feel right, stop and rest or turn around.

 

[cruiseroutfit]

So Kurt, are you leading the 2 day trip with your 40 or the new 100? You know you want to kick up the comfort level

Good question, likely in my 40... the misses will drive the 100 down for the vendor show in Moab and the remainder of the weekend.

 

[3rd Cruiser]

Registered for:

Overnight: 1st choice San Rafael ; 2nd Kokopelli
Friday: fins and things; poison spider
Saturday : Elephant Hill ; Poison spider

How about making Fins and things the un-official 100 series run on Friday?

 

[paflytyer]

Registered for:


How about making Fins and things the un-official 100 series run on Friday?

That's my Friday choice as well.

 

[Romer]

Im signed up for Fins saturday. Thats the day I usually lead, but the trail boss might have a greater need and have me lead something else

 

[Mxndrnks]

So, folks always said "no such thing as a stupid question, just stupid people" but here goes...

Pretty familiar with the Moab territory as I lived in Durango and Junction almost 10 years combined. I also know this event can be pretty family friendly, but I'm at an impass, our first daughter will only be a little over 6 months old and the wife and I are curious about the bouncing around the little on will take. We are on the adventurous side as far as trying to get our daughter out in to the world but we don't want to give her brain damage from all the bouncing. We have no problem walking obstacles with her as the hundy bounces through, but I know some trails have longer rougher sections. So I guess I'm wondering what folks WITH kids have done. Jon Haris, I know you wheel with your twins but when did you start? Are we premature at this age? Advice welcome from all!

Thanks in advance!

I would (like John said...) go and have fun! I started taking my Girl when she was 9 months old and my son around 6 months to the desert. I wont be making it to CM this year, but like John, wouldnt think twice about taking your kids on Fins and Things. Even at the more "challenging" sections, there are by-passes or like you said, hop out and walk them. I would think Poison Spider Mesa would be ok too. There are only a couple of really bouncy spots. And use towels, etc. for a little extra padding around the head and neck. take your time and have fun!

One of the best things about CM is it is SO laid back. If things are not what you want, you can bail and NO ONE...I MEAN NO ONE will give the guy with a 6 month old anything but props for making the call to turn back. You might find more than one offering a seat in their ride should you want to continue on while the wife goes back.

Say you go.... One day you do fins and things, next you hit Arches or another senic paved spot, then maybe another trail.... in between you hit the pool etc....

My only advise with the little one and the misses, get a hotel or cabin. a couple years ago it snowed, the next year it was really hot and the camp ground was covered in pollen from the trees. The comfort of a hotel or cabin will make the trip spectacular.

 

[jonharis]

My Friday Saturday schedule are currently as follows. I'm not too particular though.

Fri: Participant, Sevenmile Rim
Sat: Lead (if the trail boss wants) Hell's Revenge.

I'm going to put on a little unofficial night run Saturday as well if anyone is interested.........

 

[3rd Cruiser]

So has anyone else registered?

 

[Skidoo]

I am signed up, coming from Sacramento. Looks like I will be on Kokopelli Overnight as Swell 1st choice was full. Have Gold Bar for Fri and have to leave Sat.

 

[Grego]

I am signed up and looking forward to my first moab trip. Put in for porcupine rim, poison spider mesa and wipe out hill.