Now wait a minute! First you say "worst in class" and "unsafe." Now you say only when wearing 35" tires! Make up your mind!
So if I slap 35's on a Honda Passport, I bet the 80 is still better!
But it won't part the Red Sea like John's 100...
100 Series vs 80 Series (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter DesertCruiser
- Start date
This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate
links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.
Now wait a minute! First you say "worst in class" and "unsafe." Now you say only when wearing 35" tires! Make up your mind!
So if I slap 35's on a Honda Passport, I bet the 80 is still better!
But it won't part the Red Sea like John's 100...
Now wait a minute! First you say "worst in class" and "unsafe." Now you say only when wearing 35" tires! Make up your mind!
So if I slap 35's on a Honda Passport, I bet the 80 is still better!
But it won't part the Red Sea like John's 100...
Tell you what! Since so many of you are in denial about the brakes....I have a video coming. Stay tuned.
Slee busted an outer CV though he admitted error and that an 80 would have broke there too.
How do you know?
He's posted on it before and I've talked to him on the phone.
But so what? 1 busted CV joint. One is no weakness. Hell, after my dealer ruined my one by not clamping a boot properly I ran Spike and Fins and came home OK. Show me all the breakage on 100's and I'll back down.
That's hilarious coming from you! I think if you look up "denial" in the dictionary, you'll see this:
:shotts:
Stay tuned buddy.......
Show me all the breakage on 100's and I'll back down.
No you won't. And given their relative populations, I still don't see much breakage on 80s, even in this forum.
And did I just imagine you going through one (or two) steering racks? C'mon John, don't make me cull through old posts and hack `em up, `cause I know you love that!
Whether it breaks on the trail or in the Starbucks parking lot, it's still breakage.
Oooh, that looks like the infamous Hummer video! Funny, I've never seen this happen on a straight axle truck...
Neither steering rack broke. The topic was broke, breakage. Duh. One was given free due to some added play...new rack didn't help...turned out to be loose wheel bearings. The other leaked on a 700-mile trip. A weakness though so far only me.
- Joined
- Jul 20, 2004
- Threads
- 274
- Messages
- 23,205
- Location
- Chandler, AZ
- Website
- www.tontorecreationalliance.org
I wasn't arguing the difference between the two systems, only your BS claims;
Fact, the 80 brakes perform well against their class, generation vehicles and in good operating condition are far from your claim of "simply dangerous".
I did a bunch of Moab trails in the record flood last fall and never felt the least bit out of control, in fact was loving the 80's brakes. Going through water halfway up the doors, then off the edge of domes and fins without issue. But my wheeling history includes a drum brake 40, so I guess it's a matter of perspective.
I wasn't arguing the difference between the two systems, only your BS claims;
Fact, the 80 brakes perform well against their class, generation vehicles and in good operating condition are far from your claim of "simply dangerous".
I did a bunch of Moab trails in the record flood last fall and never felt the least bit out of control, in fact was loving the 80's brakes. Going through water halfway up the doors, then off the edge of domes and fins without issue. But my wheeling history includes a drum brake 40, so I guess it's a matter of perspective.
I hear ya Kev....though my OPINION stands. Me, Becky, my sons....we all believe the 80's brakes are dangerous. The system is so overburdened with larger tires and added weight. If you decended the same hills in my 100 you'd not believe the difference. You'd suddduppp next time.
Enough debated on this......video coming......until then, it's 5 o'clock somewhere.
1997 LX450
Braking Distance (60-0 mph): 132 ft.
1996 LX450
60-0 mph stopping distance of 136 feet
2003 GX470
Braking, 60-0, ft: 131
FJ Cruiser
60 - 0 (ft):, 126.6
60-0 mph, 128 ft
sleeoffroad
Supporting Vendor
RE: broken CV and front diff on ARB adventure.
Hey, I admitted I broke it, never said and 80 would have broken there.
Hey, I admitted I broke it, never said and 80 would have broken there.
That sucks. My 06 LC has AHC. I didn't want it, but couldn't find one around here with out it. I was hoping that after several years in the Lexus the kinks would be worked out. Does anyone know how common failures are in the later models?
OK, I stand corrected. The rack "only" leaked, and "only" necessitated a complete replacement (which you could not have done on the trail). See, I'm man enough to admit when I'm wrong!
You said if had it happened in the 80 it probably would have broken too. Sorry....you said it.
But again....who cares? It's ONE broken CV joint on all of MUD.
That's OK, if it ever breaks, it should be relatively easy to yank it all out and go with a traditional suspension!
Funny, I was in my fuse box last night, and saw an empty place that's labeled as "AHC." And I have empty threaded holes where the AHC pump would normally go. If I have the wiring harness to an empty ECU socket somewhere, maybe I can go against the grain and add the system!
You said if had it happened in the 80 it probably would have broken too. Sorry....you said it.
I'll believe Slee instead.
