10,000 mile oil change ?? (1 Viewer)

[Fishinsea]

So I bought my 2018 LC 1.5 years ago and had almost 10K on it at purchase with a fresh oil change.
dealership and and everything i read says 10K intervals.

Never in a million years would I take my LC or any other car to a dealership for routine maintenance

I did my first oil and filter change at 15K so 5000 miles and now am ready to do another.

Do any of you really follow the 10k interval My brain just says no to this but here are my thoughts and look for your input

1. Drain oil every 4-5K via Fumoto valve that I have and replace oil only then change filter on next one so basically change filter every 10 K and not fight the undercarriage protection i installed

2. Just suck it up and change oil and filter every 4-5K

Thanks all

 

[bloc]

It isn't just guessing, the data shows these engines are easy on oil and can often go 10k with the oil still performing "well enough". The data I speak of is "used oil analysis" posted to websites like bobistheoilguy.com

Thing is, the couple times I went to 10k, I noticed a marked increase in consumption around 7500-8k miles. Not sure how much of this is my moderate-mileage engine (over 150k) or the interval, but I had trouble being comfortable with 10k on that basis alone. That is just my engine.. but others report similar.. and still others don't have the same phenomenon.

Some around here split the difference and do theirs at 7500, others tow heavy or have a supercharger or a lead foot or just prefer to treat their vehicle like a queen and do 5k.

I'm in the 5k camp, with the understanding that I can easily extend it to 7500-10k (if needed) due to being in the middle of a big trip or whatever. That said, it only takes me 3 minutes with a battery impact to get access to the filter.

With the filter's critical job of collecting contaminants, I just couldn't stomach doing it every other change. But, if you extend those changes.. you save some work.

Personally I wouldn't allow mods that I installed dictate anything about my service schedule. Do what you think is best for the engine, within reason, and drive for many miles. If you want to play with extending intervals on your vehicle for convenience, consider sending off some use oil samples yourself. This could give you data to show that 7500 or 10k whatever you choose is doing no real harm, and still drive happily for many miles.

Great looking truck, by the way..

 

[hickuptruck]

I've driven over a million + miles on all the engines I've owned over my lifetime. They've all had 10-15k mile oil change intervals on Mobil1/Castrol synthetic with a nice filter. Never had engine issues.

 

[slipkid13]

I would think driving conditions would dictate some of this as well. Hot dusty conditions, pulling heavy loads, etc. vs. everyday street driving. Toyota/Lexus say 10K under normal conditions, most mechanics say 5-7. I don't mind a 5-7K interval as it gives my mechanic a change to look everything over and let me know if anything looks worn, or odd.

 

[coleAK]

In my ‘13 LX I’ve always done 5k mile interval, as well as all the shorter towing/off road receive recommendations. So only due to the fact I tow a 22 foot ~6800lb camper 10-15k miles a summer all over AK and northern Canada every summer. This and I off road often. Of the ~85K miles I have on the LX at least 60k has been towing the ORV 22BHS. If I didn’t tow I would have no problem going 10k miles.

we have a 2003 MB e320, had since new. ~160k miles and have only ever done oil changes every 10k miles or once a year, no issues.

 

[bloc]

I’m not sure that other engine families are relevant here.

Once upon a time a TDi oil nerd used a petcock installed on the filter housing for sampling and UOAs every 2k past the 10k recommended interval (like ours) to see just how far a premium oil could go in that engine when treated well. Per the lab he finally needed to change it at 36k. That was an 02 ALH, if anyone is wondering.

Does that mean I’d consider going 36k in my cruiser? Absolutely not.

 

[Fishinsea]

With all this being said, If most people think the 10K interval is suitable, then my thought of changing the oil at every 5K as easy as it is with the Fumoto valve and then the filter at 10K is certainly not going to harm things.

 

[Fishinsea]

It isn't just guessing, the data shows these engines are easy on oil and can often go 10k with the oil still performing "well enough". The data I speak of is "used oil analysis" posted to websites like bobistheoilguy.com

Thing is, the couple times I went to 10k, I noticed a marked increase in consumption around 7500-8k miles. Not sure how much of this is my moderate-mileage engine (over 150k) or the interval, but I had trouble being comfortable with 10k on that basis alone. That is just my engine.. but others report similar.. and still others don't have the same phenomenon.

Some around here split the difference and do theirs at 7500, others tow heavy or have a supercharger or a lead foot or just prefer to treat their vehicle like a queen and do 5k.

I'm in the 5k camp, with the understanding that I can easily extend it to 7500-10k (if needed) due to being in the middle of a big trip or whatever. That said, it only takes me 3 minutes with a battery impact to get access to the filter.

With the filter's critical job of collecting contaminants, I just couldn't stomach doing it every other change. But, if you extend those changes.. you save some work.

Personally I wouldn't allow mods that I installed dictate anything about my service schedule. Do what you think is best for the engine, within reason, and drive for many miles. If you want to play with extending intervals on your vehicle for convenience, consider sending off some use oil samples yourself. This could give you data to show that 7500 or 10k whatever you choose is doing no real harm, and still drive happily for many miles.

Great looking truck, by the way..

I hear you clearly and if Toyota states the oil filter and oil are good for 10K , certainly putting fresh oil in her every 5K won't harm things. Just thinking out loud here.

 

[04UZJ100]

8 months or 6,000 miles for me on 5W30 M1 synthetic. Oil in my 2020 has 900 miles on it and I’m about to change it out since it’s been there since September-ish.

 

[99toylc]

Every 8K on Mobil 1 synthetic 0W-20 in my 2008 Tundra 5.7 with 222 k miles, soon to be 0W-30 just for extra protection in both the LX and the Tundra during the next oil change.

 

[Paul19876]

I would think driving conditions would dictate some of this as well. Hot dusty conditions, pulling heavy loads, etc. vs. everyday street driving. Toyota/Lexus say 10K under normal conditions, most mechanics say 5-7. I don't mind a 5-7K interval as it gives my mechanic a change to look everything over and let me know if anything looks worn, or odd.

And then there's the serendipity issue. I brought my Land Cruiser in for a 10K oil change after completing a 5K one and he found an oil leak by the oil pan just by looking around a little. I ended up having a major warranty repair replacing the oil pan so I'm glad I brought it in because I tend not to look for small leaks.

 

[slipkid13]

And then there's the serendipity issue. I brought my Land Cruiser in for a 10K oil change after completing a 5K one and he found an oil leak by the oil pan just by looking around a little. I ended up having a major warranty repair replacing the oil pan so I'm glad I brought it in because I tend not to look for small leaks.

Yes, that's why I don't mind going in every 5k-ish because the truck gets a going over by my mechanic.

In my motorcycle I change it every 6 months, at the beginning of the summer riding season and when I store for the winter. I have never hit the oil change interval because I just don't ride as much as any more. I don't like having old oil in there, esp. after it sits all winter. I know it can start to break down, not sure how much but I figure for a couple of bucks I can make sure I begin each summer with fresh oil.

 

[Karbon]

I hear you clearly and if Toyota states the oil filter and oil are good for 10K , certainly putting fresh oil in her every 5K won't harm things. Just thinking out loud here.

For the past 50k on my truck I've been doing 5k oil and 10k filter with full synthetic and OEM filters. Oil and filters are consistently clean based on a visual inspection.

To each their own - there will never ever be a consensus on anything related to oil ever.

 

[Madtiger]

10k miles oil interval on all my Toyotas…Sienna has 110k+ miles on odometer…heck i even rotate tires every 10k too.

My LC gets 10k oil changes; 5k tire rotation.

 

[Noah Miller]

I do 10 K oil change interval at dealer and 5K off cycle $100 minor service to check for issues. removing all that crap to do an oil change is no bueno. I bring my whole family and neighbors in and out in an hour, eating $100 in coffee and donuts, best pandemic breakfast ever!

 

[REKCUT]

10 to 12 k on all my modern toyota engines. 300k on a tundra at 12k intervals and mobile 1. 200k on fj cruiser 10k intervals mobile 1. 100k on tundra 10k interval. Now currently doing this on 20 tundra and 20 cruiser. Both have 15k range on miles so only one oil change each so far.

 

[LXinOBX]

10K miles here...and, no clue of your prior experience w your VABch dealer (Priority, yes?) , but, they are hands down, probably THE best service guys especially when dealing with coastal LCs/LXs

Love the pic

 

[tominboise]

I don't drive as much as I used to, and I have five vehicles and two motorcycles, so mileage doesn't get piled up as much as it used to. Using TGMO 0W-20, I had an UOA done at 7500 miles and the recommendation was to go to 9000 on the next change and sample again. So, I have settled in on aiming for between 5000-7500 miles, or once a year, whichever comes first. Most of my rigs get annual oil changes rather than mileage based.

Oil is cheap. My time is cheap. I'd rather change it early than push it. Also, I personally wouldn't change oil without changing the filter.

 

[Fishinsea]

" I personally wouldn't change oil without changing the filter. "

I would agree but based off the census that both oil and filter are good for 10K........leaving the filter for 10K but swapping the oil at 5K is only going to better what the manufacturer states. My last change I inspected my filter visually and had no signs of build up, oil was a light brown at 5K and I lightly drive the LC, it's a 2018 with just over 20K on it

 

[1world1love]

I only have my LX serviced at the dealer and I just have them do oil and filter at every 5k. At first they thought I was being overly cautious, but now that they know how I use my truck, they don't question it. They have a note in my file and just include it automatically.