1/4 eplitcal suspension???
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Suspension
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Mounts, Parts Of Ford Shock Towers
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As Soon As I Make Some Shackles Ill Show You From The Rear... With The Leafs Sitting On The Axle, And Nothing On The Frame, I Have 2 feet Of Flex.
hey - tractor supply called, they want there links back
-jk, good luck on the build fullmetal
-jk, good luck on the build fullmetal
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Mace said:
I Think The Rear Will Sit 2" Higher Then The Front, Sits About Level With No Shackles And No Weight.
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Also you might want to throw a little gusset on the spring retainer, I see three stitch welds and we all know where it would brake if severly torqued on?
Rob
Rob
Full_M3tal said:Mounts, Parts Of Ford Shock Towers
Mace said:
fixed it for ya
seriously cam, those links are terrible, you need to build the BEEFY... look at everyones links on the board....... this is one project you cant do half-assed. seriously dude.
you might have the right idea.... but i dont think you realize how much stress your going to be putting on that suspension..
you've got a lot of weight in that cruiser, your planning on running some decent gears, and some pretty good sized tires. you dont realize how much stress is going to be on this suspension.. and it's going to be coming from EVERY angle. up, down, sideways, the torque from the motor is going to try to twist that axle.....
more research buddy
seriously, i'm not trying to bash you truck, i'm trynig to save your life
ps, the lightbar/now shock hoop HAS to go
DAM dude nice FLEX!!! might is coming along
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Fullsizeyota said:fixed it for ya
seriously cam, those links are terrible, you need to build the BEEFY... look at everyones links on the board....... this is one project you cant do half-assed. seriously dude.
you might have the right idea.... but i dont think you realize how much stress your going to be putting on that suspension..
you've got a lot of weight in that cruiser, your planning on running some decent gears, and some pretty good sized tires. you dont realize how much stress is going to be on this suspension.. and it's going to be coming from EVERY angle. up, down, sideways, the torque from the motor is going to try to twist that axle.....
more research buddy
seriously, i'm not trying to bash you truck, i'm trynig to save your life
You Really Bashed Me, I Dont Know What To Say To That.... Just I'm Doing The Best That I Can, This Is My First Time Doing This.
They don't look that bad. The pics are VERY small tho.
What material are they made out of? I don't remember if you ever said.
You link setup is not inherently wrong. A lot of building is figuring what works on your rig. Not what everyone else says..
What material are they made out of? I don't remember if you ever said.
You link setup is not inherently wrong. A lot of building is figuring what works on your rig. Not what everyone else says..
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i'm not bashing you, i'm trying to help you. i have NEVER done a 4 link before.if you dont know who this is, your a retard.....
i'm on leaves..
read these links....
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=168577&highlight=4+link
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=430810&highlight=4+link
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=428363&highlight=4+link
look at the fab work in those trucks... they are BEEFY, everyone uses DOM tube, and huge heim joints, all the brackets are more then plenty strong on these trucks....
Cam, seriously, you dont realize how much stress is on that rear axle. everytime you climb a hill, where does that weight/stress go?? THE REAR AXLE!!
i'm trying to convince you that YOU MUST OVER BUILD IT!! jason, kenny, and everyone at the shop has tried to tell you.
i'm not just worried about your life, i'll be worried about mine if this thing ever hits the road....
search for 4 link calculators and read up, it's not like you just throw down 4 links and call it a day... the links must be precisely placed or your going to have MAJOR issues
you need to brace the hell out of everything under your truck, it's going to be hit by rocks/bushes/trees.
do you honestly think your links would hold up if you had the weight of your truck resting on one link on a rock??
i'm helping him find links other info....
i personally know this guy, so dont get too excited....
i've seen this rig first hand, me and about 4 or 5 other people who have seen this rig first hand have tried to talk some sense into him, but it's just not working...
for constructive criticism, you need beefier links, actually DOM links, tap the ends and be done.. ya the tractor joints are fine, but they are HARD. you cant just weld some 1 1/2 pipe to the spherical part of the joint with a 110V welder and expect them to hold, you just cant. the 110V wont penetrate into that hard of material.... unless your ONE HELL of a better welder than i am (i'm by no means the best) it's just not going to work, 110V isn't enough heat to penetrate that s***...
this truck need some seriously beefy links. atleast 1 1/2 thick walled DOM tube.. 1 3/4 on up would be better...
i could see if your doing mock up, to get measurements right, and what not, becuase i know DOM is expensive s***. pipe isn't. mock up with pipe and see what happens.... but from talking with him FIRST HAND, it's what he's plannin on runnin... pipe... pipe is ok for some stuff, but i can't see pipe being rested on a rock with the entire weight of the truck in the center of the link, and having it hold the weight of the truck of, or the brackets staying on the frame....
as for the retard thing, its not a big deal, i'm pretty sure Cam knows who i am..
Cam, your in no hurry to get this thing done, take the time and do it right and be done..
ill try to throw up some more URL links in a bit... i'm trying to help you out, and save yours and my life in the process... seriously.
as for you HIGHLYF.. chill out dude... seriously.
i personally know this guy, so dont get too excited....
i've seen this rig first hand, me and about 4 or 5 other people who have seen this rig first hand have tried to talk some sense into him, but it's just not working...
for constructive criticism, you need beefier links, actually DOM links, tap the ends and be done.. ya the tractor joints are fine, but they are HARD. you cant just weld some 1 1/2 pipe to the spherical part of the joint with a 110V welder and expect them to hold, you just cant. the 110V wont penetrate into that hard of material.... unless your ONE HELL of a better welder than i am (i'm by no means the best) it's just not going to work, 110V isn't enough heat to penetrate that s***...
this truck need some seriously beefy links. atleast 1 1/2 thick walled DOM tube.. 1 3/4 on up would be better...
i could see if your doing mock up, to get measurements right, and what not, becuase i know DOM is expensive s***. pipe isn't. mock up with pipe and see what happens.... but from talking with him FIRST HAND, it's what he's plannin on runnin... pipe... pipe is ok for some stuff, but i can't see pipe being rested on a rock with the entire weight of the truck in the center of the link, and having it hold the weight of the truck of, or the brackets staying on the frame....
as for the retard thing, its not a big deal, i'm pretty sure Cam knows who i am..
Cam, your in no hurry to get this thing done, take the time and do it right and be done..
ill try to throw up some more URL links in a bit... i'm trying to help you out, and save yours and my life in the process... seriously.
as for you HIGHLYF.. chill out dude... seriously.
take a look at proffitts 4 link kit... check out the truss's.. i wish he had more info on the link material and the heims and what not, but you'll get the idea..
http://www.proffittscruisers.com/suspension/coils.html
cam, i've even seen some guys runnin aluminum links. look in the phone book under outter limit motorsports, those guys run a lot of aluminum stuff...
hell call rock logic, i'm sure von would be willing to atleast tell you what material they would use if they did a 4 link for ya
whatever you build, build it heavy, just think about HOW this is going to fail... your going to be out in the middle of no where, climbing a hill, the axle will want to climb under the truck and over you'll go.. just like a green cruiser i know of...
if that 4 link fails, the truck will be totally useless... and thats not something you can do a trail repair on.... i really dont know how you would move it... i guess chain the ass end to another cruiser and drag it out or something....
dont take any chances on this thing failing, you have to guarantee it wont..
http://www.proffittscruisers.com/suspension/coils.html
cam, i've even seen some guys runnin aluminum links. look in the phone book under outter limit motorsports, those guys run a lot of aluminum stuff...
hell call rock logic, i'm sure von would be willing to atleast tell you what material they would use if they did a 4 link for ya
whatever you build, build it heavy, just think about HOW this is going to fail... your going to be out in the middle of no where, climbing a hill, the axle will want to climb under the truck and over you'll go.. just like a green cruiser i know of...
if that 4 link fails, the truck will be totally useless... and thats not something you can do a trail repair on.... i really dont know how you would move it... i guess chain the ass end to another cruiser and drag it out or something....
dont take any chances on this thing failing, you have to guarantee it wont..
why couldn't you repair it by welding the links back together using a trail welded then limp it where you can load it on a trailer 
bad_religion_au said:why couldn't you repair it by welding the links back together using a trail welded then limp it where you can load it on a trailer
ok now your just being rediculous.....
why the hell would you worry about HOW your going to fix it? why not worry about WHY its going to break in the first place......and do it right in the nice clean warm shop
i have more posts in this thread than cam
