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I posted this on hardcore ideas as well, so anyways here it is again.
Anyone have an idea or built a snorkle for their 60? I want it more for airflow to the turbo, but also I will take the benefit of being able to go through big puddles.
Anyone have pics? Suggestions,
thanks,
john
 
I would just go with a manufactured snorkel...like a Safari or Airtec, etc.

They are engineered to fit the vehicle specifically, look nice, and are easy to install out of the box. Greg B.'s got a Safari Snorkel installed on Das Poo Vagen (lifted BJ60) that looks pretty nice and clean.

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cheap,
3" exhaust pipe bent to fit with 2 pieces of FOrd escort flex intake tube and a short piece of 3" inside the compartment. get the shop to do a 90 for the top, cut it straight along the flat and flare it to fit over the top of the snrokel, this allows you to turn it front or back intake...
cheers
 
If you have a beater I think a home snorkel is good but I have never seen a homebuilt snorkel that didn't look ghettoor quality. Sorry, JMHO. Anyway, Go to the local CAT or farm dealer for fittings if you need them. I know the JD dealer has the same donaldson prefilters that is used by safari.
 
go with the safari. they work. they look good.
I imagine that the fiberglass ones might look great, but it seems unlikely to me that they'll last the way the ABS plastic ones do. fiberglass just doesn't handle flexing/denting very well (take a look at any number of surfboards after a season or two).

I have seen a snorkel made out of exhaust tube that looked decent, but only decent.

If you are mounting to a gasser, the advantage to fabbing your own snorkel is that you can put it on the driver's side, where your air intake is located (assuming 2F motor w/ USA air filter housing)

Good luck!
 
hmmm....

maybe I'm not making a fair comparison. I guess the weight tradeoffs with boards prevent the sort of thickness you would get on the parts in question.

Come to think of it-- the Maggiolina tent we've got is fiberglass and has held up pretty well.

Hey, I have an idea: tell your buddy to send me a prototype snorkel and I'll run it for a couple of years and post back to the list with my observations! :)

Wayne's right-- there are some very strong 'glass constructions out there. Surfers aren't a fair comparison.

I still endorse the Safari, but agree that the 'glass version is worth taking a look at.
 
crushers said:
actually I challenge your statement of the flexing and cracking, I have not seen a surf board here in Calgary (I am sure there are some somewhere) but the yachts take a good pounding on the water in rough water as well as the 40 series tubs and associated parts he makes take some serious twisting and there is no cracking that I am aware of. he even ditched his 42 at 80 k/h trying to miss a deer. after he righted the cruiser the only damage to the complete fiberglass bodied cruiser was a fist size hole in the front fender from contact with a rock and the fiberglass hardtop separated at the seam.
there are different qualities of fiberglass and if you get a poor manufacturer then I can see a problem but Mike has been around fiberglass for decades and I can guarantee that if he builds them they will be built right.
we had a sample 12"X12" of his work sitting here for quite a few years. I offered a $50 reward to anyone that could bust it. after months of pounding with hammers and even sledge hammers (swung from over the head) the only damage was chipping of the gel coat. take a sledge to the surf boards and get back to me on how they hold up.
cheers
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I agree with Crushers. I've worked a lot with fiberglass, rebuilding sailboats and such, and at the point where fiberglass would delaminate or shatter is well past the point where plastic would either crack or permanently deform. Fiberglass will not degrade under UV rays like black plastic will. Safari uses ABS plastic for the same reason everyone else does, it lends itself well to mass production, and it's tolerant of manufacturing imperfections.

I'll be anxious to see what the price point is Wayne.
 
crushers said:
i have sent a new safari snorkel down to Mike and he will be making them out of fiberglass by the end of the year for much cheaper than the safari kit, and i know from experience the fiberglass components are extremely strong and the fit will be exactly the same as safari. they will be sold through Luxury Imports for the BJ7* series only. there is no copyright infringment since the new product is made out of fibeglass and the old is plastic. of course the safari stamp will be gone.
cheers
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How much are you planning to sell these for?

Dave
 
crushers said:
i have sent a new safari snorkel down to Mike and he will be making them out of fiberglass by the end of the year for much cheaper than the safari kit, and i know from experience the fiberglass components are extremely strong and the fit will be exactly the same as safari. they will be sold through Luxury Imports for the BJ7* series only. there is no copyright infringment since the new product is made out of fibeglass and the old is plastic. of course the safari stamp will be gone.
cheers
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Yikes...are you sure about that, Wayne? Would it be worth it if there are legal implications? I'm not sure I agree with the ethics of the process, but then again, that's more of a personal issue.
 
moose_sv1000s said:
I agree with Crushers. I've worked a lot with fiberglass, rebuilding sailboats and such, and at the point where fiberglass would delaminate or shatter is well past the point where plastic would either crack or permanently deform. Fiberglass will not degrade under UV rays like black plastic will. Safari uses ABS plastic for the same reason everyone else does, it lends itself well to mass production, and it's tolerant of manufacturing imperfections.

I'll be anxious to see what the price point is Wayne.
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Yet my friends Bronco fender flares made of glass brussed up against a tree and cracked and broke in sections.

While his budy with the plastic units could twist them right around in a circle?
 
Like others on this post I have to question the direct comparison if safari's plastic and fiberglass there are some many variables that it is like apples and oranges. there are over a 100 different flavors of fiberglass and as many processes for creating with it, the safari is plastic mold injected and the type of plastic again could be one of 100 at least, just my 2 cents.

Oh one more thing knowing that safari's is mold injected (on of the cheapest ways to do it) I have to wonder why the price is so freakin expensive. those that know me know that I am not cheap when it comes to cruisers and cruisers part but I just do not see the product even coming clost to being worth what it cost to get one. Don't get me wrong I do like them and I have one on my 70 series but I could pay for three of the ones Crushers is going to have for the cost of one safari... I will take my chances (not that it will be much of a chance) and go with the fiberglass one.


Cheers,

Michael



sandcruiser said:
go with the safari. they work. they look good.
I imagine that the fiberglass ones might look great, but it seems unlikely to me that they'll last the way the ABS plastic ones do. fiberglass just doesn't handle flexing/denting very well (take a look at any number of surfboards after a season or two).

I have seen a snorkel made out of exhaust tube that looked decent, but only decent.

If you are mounting to a gasser, the advantage to fabbing your own snorkel is that you can put it on the driver's side, where your air intake is located (assuming 2F motor w/ USA air filter housing)

Good luck!
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Oh one more thing knowing that safari's is mold injected (on of the cheapest ways to do it) I have to wonder why the price is so freakin expensive. those that know me know that I am not cheap when it comes to cruisers and cruisers part but I just do not see the product even coming clost to being worth what it cost to get one.

Cheers,

Michael[/QUOTE]

Wondered that myself, the price for a chunk up plastic and hardware seem a little ridiculious.

Often though about making things like inner wheel well inserts for FJ40s to keep the moisture out of those bad areas and help sounds deaden.


No one on the Island does that type of manufacturing.
 
Hey

Sorry about the late reply ... but i'm kind of proud of the home-made snorkle on my old 40. It seems to fit this application very well.

It was not difficult to make. It is constructed of some seamless pipe, a Tracel intake hose, and some rad hose from a Detroit Diesel. The top is from an old compressor.

So here it is ....
 
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