Need help deciphering my FJ45.

[FlyNdrive]

Guy's,

I'm having some problems determining what I got. I know it's 1981 FJ45 Troopy from Australia (RHD). I have done what research I can over the internet, but some items are hard to find.

Facts) the body number is FJ45284527 and the engine is 3F513378 (petrol). It has an A/C pump on the F2 engine. white 'star patters' steel wheels (believed to be OEM). It has drim brakes on all 4 wheels, and an e-brake on the drive shaft. It has an OEM tool box, and no PTO. Here is a pic of the build plate fro Australia.

1) What year is my Troopy? I was sure it was a 1981 due to the production plate and from the owner, but from the chart below shows it was made in July of 1978. I assume the list if from Toyota and not country specific.

2) What are some specifics about the equipment? I assume the rear axle a full floater? Here is a pic. Also are the white steel wheels a Toyota OEM wheel. I have seen them a lot here on FJ's between 1979 & 1984. Are there any disk brake conversion kits available for the FF axle.

3) Here is the engine. I assume the large cylindrical unit running off the belt is an AC.

Here is an overall pic of the vehicle. Anyting else i'm missing?

Thanks in advance,

-Ben

-Ben

 

[1tontoy]

I think your chart doesn't apply to your vehicle.

Checked toyodiy.com and it shows a production date of 2/81:

ToyoDIY.com

 

[FlyNdrive]

Thanks...makes sense now.

Still trying to find out why I can't find a rear disk brake kit. All are pre 8-80.

 

[Bear]

Looks like your chart is for FJ40s, not FJ45s.

 

[fjdaveinoz]

Definitely a 1981 model
That is a "Compliance Plate" and is affixed by Toyota Motor Co Australia when it arrives here, so a build date would more likely be 1/81 or 2/81 as mentioned earlier.
(newer imported cars have both a build plate, fixed in the manufacture plant, and a compliance plate fitted locally, and the dates can be months apart!)
Wheels are 'sunraysier rims' likely made here in Aust by a company called ROH
Your FJ45 would have had standard Grey Split Rims ex factory.
We never got discs front or rear on the 4x series.
even most 75 series only got front discs, so sourcing rear discs out of Aust to suit FF Axle you would need to look at late 7x series, and adapt.
Someone has put a 3F out of a 60 series in it for you (or a FJ75)
PTO only an option, never came standard, and not at all common.
The freewheeling hubs are right for a 1981, only 1981 60 series had them too, after the Warn's and before the gold aisin's
Hope I have helped at all

Dave

 

[FlyNdrive]

Thanks Mate, That helps a lot.

I think I may put disks on the front for a little help with the highway braking.

Cheers,

-Ben

 

[Chamba]

Definitely a 1981 model
That is a "Compliance Plate" and is affixed by Toyota Motor Co Australia when it arrives here, so a build date would more likely be 1/81 or 2/81 as mentioned earlier.
(newer imported cars have both a build plate, fixed in the manufacture plant, and a compliance plate fitted locally, and the dates can be months apart!)
Wheels are 'sunraysier rims' likely made here in Aust by a company called ROH
Your FJ45 would have had standard Grey Split Rims ex factory.
We never got discs front or rear on the 4x series.
even most 75 series only got front discs, so sourcing rear discs out of Aust to suit FF Axle you would need to look at late 7x series, and adapt.
Someone has put a 3F out of a 60 series in it for you (or a FJ75)
PTO only an option, never came standard, and not at all common.
The freewheeling hubs are right for a 1981, only 1981 60 series had them too, after the Warn's and before the gold aisin's
Hope I have helped at all

Dave

G'day Dave,

The Oz-spec HJ47 got discs in (from memory) 1981. The BJ42 and FJ40 lx also got discs in OZ. However, I don't think the FJ45 ever got disc brakes on the front in Australia.

Ben,

Easy to put disc brakes on the rear full floater (which is what yours is). There are a number of threads on Mud about how to do it, so I will not bore you with it here.

FJ40s in America got disc brakes up front in 1976, and you can swap those on to your front axle pretty easily. Since your rig is post '79, you can also put the 60 series discs on using your factory axle shafts.

As far as your engine, it looks like the correct 2F to me, but perhaps Dave is right.

Cheers,

Josh

 

[fjdaveinoz]

Yes, Sorry Josh you are correct. HJ47's got discs. Im not as familiar with the late model 40 series stuff, just seen the insides on so many front drums on earlier rigs my memory got a bit blurred.
That does look like a 2F, but I was going by the engine number the OP Posted.

 

[FlyNdrive]

Thanks Mates. You guy's know your stuff.

How do I tell of it is a 2F or 3F engine. I wonder why it would be replaced, but I was wondering how it had A/C on it.

-Ben

 

[2manycruisers]

FJ45s had disk brakes in 1984--The '83 I imported had drums, the '84 had disks. A/c was available on the 2fs, but yours looks like aftermarket air. I'm not sure how to tell a 3f. There is a 1990 fj75 in the vehicle classifieds with a carb'ed 3f, take a look at that and see if you can see any obvious differences. 3F often has a sticker, but that could easily be removed.

You could put disks from a 60 series on your front axle housing, that's what my '80 hj45 troopy has.

 

[FlyNdrive]

FJ45s had disk brakes in 1984--The '83 I imported had drums, the '84 had disks. A/c was available on the 2fs, but yours looks like aftermarket air. I'm not sure how to tell a 3f. There is a 1990 fj75 in the vehicle classifieds with a carb'ed 3f, take a look at that and see if you can see any obvious differences. 3F often has a sticker, but that could easily be removed.

You could put disks from a 60 series on your front axle housing, that's what my '80 hj45 troopy has.

I Gooooogled pics of a 2F & 3F engines and the valve covers and it looks like a 2F engine. I did read that Toyota air was available in 1981, even tough very rare, and will get a closer look when it gets 'up here'.

After talking with someone at Metal Tech I'm not sure I need the disk brakes. It may also not be going to SEMA so it might not need them, nor the coil over 4 link.

 

[Chamba]

I Gooooogled pics of a 2F & 3F engines and the valve covers and it looks like a 2F engine. I did read that Toyota air was available in 1981, even tough very rare, and will get a closer look when it gets 'up here'.

After talking with someone at Metal Tech I'm not sure I need the disk brakes. It may also not be going to SEMA so it might not need them, nor the coil over 4 link.

It was also a very common after market install in Australia. Air con is more important than heat in most of Australia.

Josh

 

[FlyNdrive]

Especially this year with tepms reaching 45 degrees.

 

[FlyNdrive]

::BUMP::

I'm still trying to to figure out what engine this is...is it a F2 or a 3F? The engine number is 3F517738...

 

[FlyNdrive]

OK, Cam @ IPOR set me right. The 3F engine was available in Australia sooner than in the US and had a carburetor before becoming the 3F-E on the 60.

 

[RufusTheDufus]

re: converting from drums to discs all around on a Troopy. I did this on my HJ45 Troopy. I'm happy I did. It stopped very well with the OEM drums when they were adjusted properly. The Troopy drums are much bigger than the fj40 drums on the US-spec vehicles and have far better braking ability. I didn't do any scientific testing but it seems to stop better with 4 wheel discs, but not much better.

 

[FlyNdrive]

re: converting from drums to discs all around on a Troopy. I did this on my HJ45 Troopy. I'm happy I did. It stopped very well with the OEM drums when they were adjusted properly. The Troopy drums are much bigger than the fj40 drums on the US-spec vehicles and have far better braking ability. I didn't do any scientific testing but it seems to stop better with 4 wheel discs, but not much better.

Thanks Rufus, I followed your build and the company that didi your rear disks are out of business. Any recommendations of rear disk conversion kit for an '81? I cant seem to find any.

-Ben

 

[RufusTheDufus]

TSM makes a rear disc kit that works on the full floating axles. They provide most of the parts in the SOR rear disc brake kit.

I realize their site says the full floating kit is for 1960 to 1980 full floating axles. Your truck is a 1981. The year isn't as important since Toyota used different parts in different markets. The axles used in Australian vehicles weren't necessarily the same as U.S. versions. The TSM full floating kit is for the 8 bolt rear backing plate style axles, which is the older style. If that's what you have it should work for you.