FJ/FZJ80 Spare tire lift (5" the easy way) (1 Viewer)

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Alright gang. Here is my first tech writeup so I hope it's helpful. After finding a fairly elegant solution on YouTube (here's the link) I decided to do the spare tire lift. For guys like me who don't have/want to drop the $1,500 for a nice bumper with a tire mount, or who don't otherwise want to give up precious cargo room for a big tire or strap it to the roof, this seemed like the solution for me. I also think it's a little cleaner than other solutions out there for lifting the spare tire. You can do this whole project without jacking up the vehicle. I put it up on ramps just for extra access, but it wasn't necessary.

YOUR OVERALL OBJECTIVE - You're looking to RAISE the tire carrier by about 5", and you want to LOWER the lowering mechanism by that same distance to make the lowering mechanism still be accessible using your factory bumper slot.

So here goes. First, the shopping list:
  • 10 bolts - 5/16" x 6" x 18TPI
  • (at least) 10 flat washers for bolts (I bought a 25 pack)
  • 10 - 5/16 x 18 thread nylock nuts
  • 1/2" square steel tubing (enough to make 10 5" sections). You'll use these as bolt spacers on the 6" bolts.
  • beer

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You'll also need/want:
  • 12mm socket & rachet wrench, or a couple of wrenches. ("Spanners" to you Brits.)
  • Decent shop light
  • PB Blaster, WD40 or similar lubricant
  • Dremel tool with good cutting wheels, or similar cutting tool
  • 1/2" socket or wrenches/spanners, if you use the bolts I used.
  • Eye protection for cutting. (Be smart or be blind.)
  • Bottle opener for said beer

I also picked up a good Dremel attachment to make quicker work of cutting the tubing. That added another $16 at Home Depot but was easily worth it.

First step is to cut the 1/2" square tubing into 5" long sections. These will be the spacers you'll use to (a) raise the carrier assembly and (b) lower the lowering mechanism assembly. You want to lower the lowering mechanism to make sure you can still lower and raise the spare tire using the factory access hole on the bumper.

It's really important that you don't make these sections any longer than 5" because that's about all the room you have to work with to get your tire mounted up at the end. I almost had to find this out the hard way but with a little "persuasion" I was able to get everything back together and bolted back up. But I digress.

Your cut pieces will look a little something like this:

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Next, lower the spare tire (see your manual) and put it out of the way.

Unbolt the spare tire carrier that mounts to the frame. There are three 12mm bolts on each side that holds the carrier to the frame. Look out for falling dirt, rodent parts, etc.! I found it was easier to remove the carrier at the frame rather than leave the brackets attached to the frame. (This makes it much easier to both drill out the threads (if you do it my way) or otherwise mount everything back up later.

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With the tire carrier out of the frame, the work begins. Remove the six 12mm bolts that hold the mount bracket to the tire carrier. (Three per side.) Because I was using SAE bolts from Home Depot, I drilled out the threads of the bracket so my bolts would slip through the holes (hence the nylock nuts).

Next, slip a bolt through a washer, and then through the carrier. Slip one of your 5" sections of steel tubing, and then mount the bracket using another washer and a nylock nut. I'm pretty OCD so I used Loctite, too, but I know that isn't really necessary. Continue this process for all three bolts on both sides. (6 bolts for those of you keeping score at home.)

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I found it pretty easy to leave all the bolts loose until they were all started. Give yourself a little wiggle room and don't tighten the bolts until they're all started.

Those 5/16" bolts have a 1/2" head, so go ahead and tighten those dudes down. You'll tighten all six to German spec ("guttentight").

After you've done all six of the bolts that mount the carrier to the frame brackets, remove the four 12mm bolts that hold the lowering mechanism to the carrier. PAY ATTENTION TO WHICH SIDE FACES THE BUMPER!! You don't want to put this on backwards!! (I actually marked the direction with a grease pencil because I have a tendency to forget those kinds of things amid the Loctite and beer.)

I then drilled out the threads on the lowering mechanism so I could again use my bolts and nylock washers. Again, slip a bolt through a washer and then through the carrier frame. Then slip one of your 5" pipe sections over the bolt, and then put the lowering mechanism on the bolt. A little dab of Loctite (not necessary) and then the nylock nut. Four times and she's good!

When you're done your modified carrier will look like this:

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Then install that bad boy!!

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With the pipe sections cut at about 5" I found that I could get one bolt to thread in to the frame, but I had to use a screwdriver or a pick to muscle the carrier up high enough to thread the 12mm bolts back to the frame. In the end, all worked out just fine. Again, don't make your pipe sections longer than 5" or you'll be pulling this back off and cutting them down again.

As I raised the spare back into position I had to push the tire where I wanted it while simultaneously cranking the mechanism back up. I'm sure I looked a bit goofy but it worked!

I was concerned that spacing the mechanism down on 5" spacers would make the mechanism a little wonky, but it seems to work okay. It's not the smoothest operating system anyway, but the tire went back up just fine. I went ahead and hit that 20-year-old part with a load of PB Blaster so hopefully she'll do just fine when needed.

Final step: Open and consume beer because you're a stud. :beer:

In the end my tire is about 5" up from my rear diff, and a little less likely to snag while hitting the trails.

I hope y'all find this helpful.

Matt
 
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No pics of the beer? :beer:
 
We'll done but I would call this the cheap way not really the easy way. The AJIK spare leveling kit came with everything I need with instruction so I don't have to piece together the hardware or even go to Home Depot besides getting the rattle can paint. Bit more expensive but heck a lot stronger, it gets my vote any day.
 
We'll done but I would call this the cheap way not really the easy way. The AJIK spare leveling kit came with everything I need with instruction so I don't have to piece together the hardware or even go to Home Depot besides getting the rattle can paint. Bit more expensive but heck a lot stronger, it gets my vote any day.

Why you gotta poo-poo the guy's write up?! The AJIK kit definitely doesn't get the spare up 5 inches. Just because this isn't something you want to do doesn't mean you gotta go negative nancy on the guy.

OP, thank you for sharing this. I think it's one of the best home-brew spare tire carrier spacers I've seen. Great ideas. :cheers:
 
Great write up. Ay pics of the finished product with the tire installed? I'd just like to see what the 5" increase looks like.
 
I would like to raise my spare and like the ingenuity of this idea. One question, though. In the event of an accident (etc), having the spare tire carrier up on these 5" spacers isn't going to prevent the tire from moving fore/aft. Maybe it would just rattle around up in there? I haven't looked at the space up there in any detail and this may be a non-issue, but raising the spare tire carrier like this is going to drastically reduce the ability of the carrier to react fore/aft loads (like it did previously).

Good work though. Especially the beer drinking...
 
Great write up. Ay pics of the finished product with the tire installed? I'd just like to see what the 5" increase looks like.

times 2, everyone wants to see your extra 5 inches! I mean, uh, I'm going to home depot now.
 
I would like to raise my spare and like the ingenuity of this idea. One question, though. In the event of an accident (etc), having the spare tire carrier up on these 5" spacers isn't going to prevent the tire from moving fore/aft. Maybe it would just rattle around up in there? I haven't looked at the space up there in any detail and this may be a non-issue, but raising the spare tire carrier like this is going to drastically reduce the ability of the carrier to react fore/aft loads (like it did previously).

Good work though. Especially the beer drinking...

I'm wondering if some sort of rubber bushings might help here?
 
We'll done but I would call this the cheap way not really the easy way. The AJIK spare leveling kit came with everything I need with instruction so I don't have to piece together the hardware or even go to Home Depot besides getting the rattle can paint. Bit more expensive but heck a lot stronger, it gets my vote any day.
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Why you gotta poo-poo the guy's write up?! The AJIK kit definitely doesn't get the spare up 5 inches. Just because this isn't something you want to do doesn't mean you gotta go negative nancy on the guy. OP, thank you for sharing this. I think it's one of the best home-brew spare tire carrier spacers I've seen. Great ideas. :cheers:

I did say well done to OP and never said it is a bad mod, but it is not the easiest spare lift although it is the cheapest or most economical......not by a whole lot If you buy quality hardware. This mod has been talked about forever especially after 4x4 TV did a video on it. There are even a few threads of people who went the home brew route and got rid of it due to different reasons like corrosion of hardware and tire just doesn't tuck in right. Also if you have 33or larger tire you might want to check the spare position because it could get pretty close to the exhaust.


And you will not get 5 inch over all lift of your spare, only the front of the spare. The rear gets an inch or so lift and then the tire will hit the seam on the body home brew or not. If you go home brew route just keep the aijk kit in mind if you found it to be inadequate.
 
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I did mine as well but only got about 2 1/2 to 3" of total lift due to the tire catching on the body at the very rear. There is a seam and pinch weld there that will rub into the tire if not protected. How did you address that? I would love to gain another couple of inches! :ban:
 
Hey all. I am traveling right now (flying) but will post a photo when I'm back. I've now driven it a bit and there is no rattling at all. I suppose the tire is an adequate (if very large) cushion on the body.

I'm running 285s, so that's the size to go by. It was a bit of a hassle cranking up the tire while pushing it forward toward the back of the diff, but it settled up there nicely.
 
nice write up, ill be making a trip to True Value and getting some harware this weekend.
 
Just did mine over the weekend, like getting the tire above the rear diff. about $20 all said and done and like everything else if it comes off and going back on it gets paint! Only diff was that I opted to go 4.5" rather than 5.

Props to imhighlander for the walk thru!

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My carrier was on 1.5" solid spacers when I was hit from behind hard enough to bend the frame. The 285 tire was pushed into the panhard rod and put a big curve in it. The carrier and spacers held together with no failures.

My spacer solution was probably more conservative than it needed to be, since it held together as the truck was totaled around it. But I would worry about the lateral stability of 5" hollow spacers.

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AJIK Gets My Vote

Nice work on creating your own lift system, everyone. I like the sturdiness of the AJIK system, plus it avoids multiple trips to the hardware store, etc. The AJIK is close to a hundred bucks, so you pay a premium for that. Also, though, the AJIK option levels the spare, which is a plus. Having said all that, my spare is now in the rear compartment of my 96 FZJ80 because even the AJIK system results in the spare hanging lower than I wanted below the rear cross member after I took off the tow hitch. If you're going to be offroading, I don't think you will want your spare under there. It really reduces your clearance under any circumstances.

I am not able to spend $1200-$2500 on a rear bumper, making me like most people on this forum (I suspect). It would be nice, but it's just not going to happen. So, my spare is in my rear storage area with a couple of sturdy NRS kayak straps holding it to the third row seat bracket I bolted back in without the seat.

Cheers, everyone. This forum is a tremendous source of knowledge. Thanks to all who contribute.

-Russell
 
So how much for your AJIK system?
 
Any pics with the tire in place?
 
Alright gang. Here is my first tech writeup so I hope it's helpful. After finding a fairly elegant solution on YouTube (here's the link) I decided to do the spare tire lift. For guys like me who don't have/want to drop the $1,500 for a nice bumper with a tire mount, or who don't otherwise want to give up precious cargo room for a big tire or strap it to the roof, this seemed like the solution for me. I also think it's a little cleaner than other solutions out there for lifting the spare tire. You can do this whole project without jacking up the vehicle. I put it up on ramps just for extra access, but it wasn't necessary.

YOUR OVERALL OBJECTIVE - You're looking to RAISE the tire carrier by about 5", and you want to LOWER the lowering mechanism by that same distance to make the lowering mechanism still be accessible using your factory bumper slot.

So here goes. First, the shopping list:
  • 10 bolts - 5/16" x 6" x 18TPI
  • (at least) 10 flat washers for bolts (I bought a 25 pack)
  • 10 - 5/16 x 18 thread nylock nuts
  • 1/2" square steel tubing (enough to make 10 5" sections). You'll use these as bolt spacers on the 6" bolts.
  • beer

picture.php

picture.php

picture.php

picture.php


You'll also need/want:
  • 12mm socket & rachet wrench, or a couple of wrenches. ("Spanners" to you Brits.)
  • Decent shop light
  • PB Blaster, WD40 or similar lubricant
  • Dremel tool with good cutting wheels, or similar cutting tool
  • 1/2" socket or wrenches/spanners, if you use the bolts I used.
  • Eye protection for cutting. (Be smart or be blind.)
  • Bottle opener for said beer

I also picked up a good Dremel attachment to make quicker work of cutting the tubing. That added another $16 at Home Depot but was easily worth it.

First step is to cut the 1/2" square tubing into 5" long sections. These will be the spacers you'll use to (a) raise the carrier assembly and (b) lower the lowering mechanism assembly. You want to lower the lowering mechanism to make sure you can still lower and raise the spare tire using the factory access hole on the bumper.

It's really important that you don't make these sections any longer than 5" because that's about all the room you have to work with to get your tire mounted up at the end. I almost had to find this out the hard way but with a little "persuasion" I was able to get everything back together and bolted back up. But I digress.

Your cut pieces will look a little something like this:

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Next, lower the spare tire (see your manual) and put it out of the way.

Unbolt the spare tire carrier that mounts to the frame. There are three 12mm bolts on each side that holds the carrier to the frame. Look out for falling dirt, rodent parts, etc.! I found it was easier to remove the carrier at the frame rather than leave the brackets attached to the frame. (This makes it much easier to both drill out the threads (if you do it my way) or otherwise mount everything back up later.

picture.php


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With the tire carrier out of the frame, the work begins. Remove the six 12mm bolts that hold the mount bracket to the tire carrier. (Three per side.) Because I was using SAE bolts from Home Depot, I drilled out the threads of the bracket so my bolts would slip through the holes (hence the nylock nuts).

Next, slip a bolt through a washer, and then through the carrier. Slip one of your 5" sections of steel tubing, and then mount the bracket using another washer and a nylock nut. I'm pretty OCD so I used Loctite, too, but I know that isn't really necessary. Continue this process for all three bolts on both sides. (6 bolts for those of you keeping score at home.)

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I found it pretty easy to leave all the bolts loose until they were all started. Give yourself a little wiggle room and don't tighten the bolts until they're all started.

Those 5/16" bolts have a 1/2" head, so go ahead and tighten those dudes down. You'll tighten all six to German spec ("guttentight").

After you've done all six of the bolts that mount the carrier to the frame brackets, remove the four 12mm bolts that hold the lowering mechanism to the carrier. PAY ATTENTION TO WHICH SIDE FACES THE BUMPER!! You don't want to put this on backwards!! (I actually marked the direction with a grease pencil because I have a tendency to forget those kinds of things amid the Loctite and beer.)

I then drilled out the threads on the lowering mechanism so I could again use my bolts and nylock washers. Again, slip a bolt through a washer and then through the carrier frame. Then slip one of your 5" pipe sections over the bolt, and then put the lowering mechanism on the bolt. A little dab of Loctite (not necessary) and then the nylock nut. Four times and she's good!

When you're done your modified carrier will look like this:

picture.php


Then install that bad boy!!

picture.php


picture.php


With the pipe sections cut at about 5" I found that I could get one bolt to thread in to the frame, but I had to use a screwdriver or a pick to muscle the carrier up high enough to thread the 12mm bolts back to the frame. In the end, all worked out just fine. Again, don't make your pipe sections longer than 5" or you'll be pulling this back off and cutting them down again.

As I raised the spare back into position I had to push the tire where I wanted it while simultaneously cranking the mechanism back up. I'm sure I looked a bit goofy but it worked!

I was concerned that spacing the mechanism down on 5" spacers would make the mechanism a little wonky, but it seems to work okay. It's not the smoothest operating system anyway, but the tire went back up just fine. I went ahead and hit that 20-year-old part with a load of PB Blaster so hopefully she'll do just fine when needed.

Final step: Open and consume beer because you're a stud. :beer:

In the end my tire is about 5" up from my rear diff, and a little less likely to snag while hitting the trails.

I hope y'all find this helpful.

Matt
 

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