Maybe it's just me being picky...

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JBHorne

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...but when you brake to a stop, and then accelerate again, do you feel a very slight "thud"? The best way I can describe it as if a gear is resting on one side of a cog and when that cog starts spinning again it hits the other side of the gear's tooth. Happens every time I stop and accelerate again. If I stop quickly or slowly, doesn't matter. If I just release the brake it happens, but not as hard as if I were to use the accelerator RIGHT after braking.

This could just be the auto tranny doing it's thing, but I'd like to know if it's worth having the dealership look into further. I could just have started noticing it and it was always present, but to me it seems like a new thing occuring.




Also, my GPS has never obtained a satillate signal, it only works based off the vehicle signal sensors (which actually do quite a good job keeping you on the correct road, except when traveling on the highway straight for long distances as well as going offroad. The tech removed the headunit (I was there) and pulled all the plugs, but nothing was disconnected or loose. We buttoned it all back up together and drove it around and it went back into "3D Hybrid" mode! But a few days later stopped working again. Any ideas?

I'm pretty sure the GPS is the 2-conductor blue harness by itself on the rear of the headunit. Right now when I enter service mode, the GPS reports a status of "NG".

Thanks!
 
There is actually an official TSB on the "clunk" although I think Toyota is trying to keep it quiet unless consumers complain. My 200 exhibited the same clunking signs within the first 1000 miles or so. I thought I was crazy and made a mistake trading the LR3. After a few "polite" but persistent calls to the dealer and Toyota, they acknowledged the issue and have since replaced the entire drive shaft. One caveat - you'll need to make sure the dealer's service department can verify/replicate the noise. Mine occurred every time I accelerated and/or decelerated so it was a no brainer for the service guy. I think the TSB is 370011 (or it could be TSB0117-08).
 
NotHiLandr! said:
There is actually an official TSB on the "clunk" although I think Toyota is trying to keep it quiet unless consumers complain. My 200 exhibited the same clunking signs within the first 1000 miles or so. I thought I was crazy and made a mistake trading the LR3. After a few "polite" but persistent calls to the dealer and Toyota, they acknowledged the issue and have since replaced the entire drive shaft. One caveat - you'll need to make sure the dealer's service department can verify/replicate the noise. Mine occurred every time I accelerated and/or decelerated so it was a no brainer for the service guy. I think the TSB is 370011 (or it could be TSB0117-08).
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You rock! Do you have access to a TSB database that you can get me a print out of this? I'll keep searching, but I didn't find it...

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I found the summary from NHTSA, but not the full TSB. I told the dealership, and they will order the parts and take care of it. It's always nice to have the facts before questioning :)

Service Bulletins Summary

Make / Models : Model/Build Years:
TOYOTA / LAND CRUISER 2008
Service Bulletin Number : TSB-0117-08
NHTSA Item Number : 10025868
Summary Description :
TOYOTA: DRIVESHAFT/PROPELLER SHAFT: CUSTOMERS MAY COMPLAIN ABOUT A THUNK FEELING FROM THE REAR OF THE VEHICLE DURING INITIAL ACCELERATION FROM A STOP, OR DECELERATION TO A STOP. *PE




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PS >> Welcome to the forums and I like your name, NotHiLandr!
LOL!
 
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No way, this still hasn't been resolved? It seems to be a reoccurring problem ranging from the GX/Prado to the LC. :bang:

Great, now my next question is how wide spread is this problem?
 
Same issue here though I didn't start noticing it until recently. Not sure the dealer will be able to identify the issue since mine is not yet very pronounced. Maybe it will go away eventually with use or is it better to get it fixed now? Otherwise, this truck is perfect and can't find enough excuses to drive it.
 
KJun said:
Same issue here though I didn't start noticing it until recently. Not sure the dealer will be able to identify the issue since mine is not yet very pronounced. Maybe it will go away eventually with use or is it better to get it fixed now? Otherwise, this truck is perfect and can't find enough excuses to drive it.
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Yeah, I'm with you on that one! I drive around the parking lot just to get to the other side of the complex if I have to!!!

I am really picky on drivabilty issues. I want a car to read my mind. Be in the correct gear before my foot demands. Downshift before a turn so that it's ready for a mid-turn punch. Any small lag or hesitation will drive me nuts.

If it were me, find out how you can easily repeat the problem, even if it requires hard braking followed immediate acceleration. Once you can repeat it, they can fix it :)
 
Do a search for a thread by me started a while ago documenting this.
 
With all due respect to dtt255 (I've watched his 200 build-up for some time now), the post originally started at: https://forum.ih8mud.com/200-series-c...ere-we-go.html never ended with an absolute resolution (IMHO). Adding grease to the drive shaft would not have resolved the "clunk" my 200 was exhibiting. And for the price point that the new LC's command, my expectations were much higher. Besides, my window sticker didn't list the "clunking driveshaft" as an option.

I do believe that Toyota has known about the issue for some time, but when I spoke to Toyota, they acknowledged they were trying to source a replacement from a new supplier. Maybe these two threads should have been merged...

Hopefully having the actual TSB information will help other readers of this forum. For now, I'm merely waiting for the new version of the ARB.
 
NotHiLandr! said:
With all due respect to dtt255 (I've watched his 200 build-up for some time now), the post originally started at: https://forum.ih8mud.com/200-series-c...ere-we-go.html never ended with an absolute resolution (IMHO). Adding grease to the drive shaft would not have resolved the "clunk" my 200 was exhibiting. And for the price point that the new LC's command, my expectations were much higher. Besides, my window sticker didn't list the "clunking driveshaft" as an option.

I do believe that Toyota has known about the issue for some time, but when I spoke to Toyota, they acknowledged they were trying to source a replacement from a new supplier. Maybe these two threads should have been merged...

Hopefully having the actual TSB information will help other readers of this forum. For now, I'm merely waiting for the new version of the ARB.
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A whole new drive shaft from ARB?
 
I bought a 200 series LC a few weeks ago and immediately felt that familiar thud I had in my 2003 GX470. I brought it in and the service guys tried to say it was loose junk in the back that was moving around.
I told them that I had tried taking everything out and it still did it and to please check if there is a TSB out... I left the car there and they called me back and confirmed there was a TSB out for this problem. It took a week to get the new shaft part and now it’s all fine.
 
sbenda said:
I bought a 200 series LC a few weeks ago and immediately felt that familiar thud I had in my 2003 GX470. I brought it in and the service guys tried to say it was loose junk in the back that was moving around.
I told them that I had tried taking everything out and it still did it and to please check if there is a TSB out... I left the car there and they called me back and confirmed there was a TSB out for this problem. It took a week to get the new shaft part and now it’s all fine.
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Cool. I'm actually glad it was actually a new part. I hate it when I TSB just has them replace something with what was originally on there (or even worse, simply apply more grease). I hope this new "shaft part" is a better version that doesn't need replacing every X miles. How many miles since your repair has it been, and any recurring symptom that the problem persists?
 
I bought the car with 5000 miles on it and have since put about 1000... so far its still smooth.
 
NotHiLandr! said:
With all due respect to dtt255 (I've watched his 200 build-up for some time now), the post originally started at: https://forum.ih8mud.com/200-series-c...ere-we-go.html never ended with an absolute resolution (IMHO). Adding grease to the drive shaft would not have resolved the "clunk" my 200 was exhibiting. And for the price point that the new LC's command, my expectations were much higher. Besides, my window sticker didn't list the "clunking driveshaft" as an option.

I do believe that Toyota has known about the issue for some time, but when I spoke to Toyota, they acknowledged they were trying to source a replacement from a new supplier. Maybe these two threads should have been merged...

Hopefully having the actual TSB information will help other readers of this forum. For now, I'm merely waiting for the new version of the ARB.
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I was not trying to say that the grease fixed it....but it is gone for me....as of now.....

It is a recurring issue with LC's and if you search the other series forums you will see it documented for a LONG TIME. That is how I found out about it in the first place.
 
This has been a Toyota truck thing for a while. All Toyota trucks with autos will do it.
 
Sorry for the delayed response...I've been offline for a few days. I've put about 8k on the odometer since the repair and still no clunking.

ARB front bumper is next on the to-do list now.
 
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You guys must be more tolerant of a $70k vehicle than me.

The service technician felt pretty stupid the other day when he was quoting my oil change for the 6 cylinder engine. I had to ask him to make sure he took care of the other 2 as well since it wasn't a Highlander like he thought. Mine was the first 200 series in the service bay and it showed. I had to tighten half of the bolts on the skid plates that they removed to figure out how to even change the oil. Don't these guys go to a Toyota training class to work on these things? Kind of scarry...really!
 
NotHiLandr! said:
You guys must be more tolerant of a $70k vehicle than me.

The service technician felt pretty stupid the other day when he was quoting my oil change for the 6 cylinder engine. I had to ask him to make sure he took care of the other 2 as well since it wasn't a Highlander like he thought. Mine was the first 200 series in the service bay and it showed. I had to tighten half of the bolts on the skid plates that they removed to figure out how to even change the oil. Don't these guys go to a Toyota training class to work on these things? Kind of scarry...really!
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Actually I am much LESS tolerant then you think I am. I would be blowing a gasket if thy acted like that when I came in.

The first oil change they did for me, I stood at the door of the service bay watching them.

I would be talking to the service manager about the skid plate issues. That is just wrong! :mad:
 
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