Yokohama Goelander Tires?

[Randy88FJ62]

I'm looking to sell my used goodyear mud terrains which are about 70% used and pick up a set of all terrains.

America's Tire has Yokohama Geolanders for $239 ea. Anyone have a better price for a good set of all terrains?

 

[jmstu76]

Size?

 

[gregnash]

We have the Geolander HT-S on our Highlander and they are great for the majority of the time (now about 25K on them). However, once they get to about 10k miles they start to get loud, so loud that a couple weekends ago when my parents were driving in the car with us my dad commented on the sound and was wondering if we had a rear bearing out....

I have heard really good things about the Hankook Dynapro ATM RF10s and Falken Rock Mountain ATs/Wild Peak.

 

[Sethro60]

Get yourself a set of BFG All Terrains. I tried to stay away from them because EVERYONE runs them, but they are simply the best thing out there for a 15" rim. About eight bills mounted and balanced. Moving to a 16" rim opens up your options a bit.

 

[Randy88FJ62]

Size?

I'm running 35's right now and plan to stay with that diameter.

I have two sets of rims, one 15" and one 16" so I could go either way.

So either 35/12.5/15 or 35/12.5/16.

Haven't looked and hancooks or falkens yet.

 

[Randy88FJ62]

Get yourself a set of BFG All Terrains. I tried to stay away from them because EVERYONE runs them, but they are simply the best thing out there for a 15" rim. About eight bills mounted and balanced. Moving to a 16" rim opens up your options a bit.

Seth,
Not sure why I don't want them but I have a bias against the BFG A/T's.

My current set of tires are Goodyear MTR's with the extra sidewall protection and they have been excellent. I bought them used with almost full tread for $800 w/ 16" rims and I wish I could find a good deal like that again but with A/T's this time.

The Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac is on my list of potentials.

 

[Lated]

Seth,
Not sure why I don't want them but I have a bias against the BFG A/T's.

Tirerack has Grabber AT2 in 35/12.5/15 for $185. Shipping for a set of 4 will run you $140 on top of that. That comes out to $220 a piece but of course then you have to have them mounted, probably around $15-20 a tire which puts you about the same as the Geolanders you mentioned. Are you looking at the Geolander AT or MT? Personally, I'd much rather have the Grabber ATs than the Geolander ATs, they seem much better suited for the dual role of an on and off road tire.

 

[Randy88FJ62]

My goal is to replace my aged/worn mud terrains for a pair of all terrains. I probably go serious rock crawling twice a year now that I rock climb so all terrains would be a nice trade off as I could still do the occasional hard trail while getting a little bit better on road / highway performance.

 

[gregnash]

My goal is to replace my aged/worn mud terrains for a pair of all terrains. I probably go serious rock crawling twice a year now that I rock climb so all terrains would be a nice trade off as I could still do the occasional hard trail while getting a little bit better on road / highway performance.

See now that right there is going to be the one major drawback of any AT. You will get decent traction but nothing like you would with MTs... Maybe look at the Duratraks as everyone seems to feel they are the best hybrid between MT and AT but still perform nicely on the road like an AT.

The Hankook DynaPro ATm RF10 and Falken WildPeak/Rocky Mountain ATs are more of what I consider a 70/30 tire, 70% pavement/30% off-road. So you might want to get something more aggressive to ensure better traction when you do crawl. My truck will be more overland so a super aggressive tire is not necessary just about any AT will do nicely.

 

[Randy88FJ62]

Gregnash,
I am moving more towards overland style trips. I am not worried about the loss of traction when wheeling. I have friends with the standard BFG AT's and they do just fine on the hard trails. Most miles will be on the highway getting to the trail rather than on it.

I prefer a more road rated tire and don't mind losing the aggressive lug pattern. My only concern is the durability of the tire. Will basic AT's be extremely vulnerable to sidewall tears? That's the only reason I would consider a more aggressive tread pattern.

 

[gregnash]

I think most of the tires I have mentioned (along with stuff like Firestone Destination AT, Michelin LTX ATII, etc) can all be had in the D and E load rating so that will add more sidewall protection. But honestly I do not know for sure. I plan to buy new tires in the September timeframe (bday and all) and really it will come down to what is on sale and how offers the best deal at that time. However, I have been leaning towards the Hankooks as they have been getting stellar reviews on the web and I have seen more than a few trucks around here with them on and they are actually a pretty good looking tire.

 

[Randy88FJ62]

Wouldn't purchasing a higher weight rated tire reduce the flexibility of the tire when deflated for sand, mud, and snow? That may be the trade off.

 

[lehiguy]

My Yokahama experiences have all been mediocre at best, I won't buy them again. If you go with the 16" rims you can get D and E rated tires. With 15s you can likely only get C rated. This maters. I tore two BFG KOs (C rated) in the center of the tread. I bought a set of 16" wheels after that and got D rated tires. Most of the D and E rated tires are still only a two-ply sidewall however, so watch that. I outfitted my 4th gen 4Runner with 285/75R16 BFG KOs in a D rating. Now I have a 8-ply rated tread and a 3-ply sidewall. Traction is excellent with these tires. I got 60,000 miles out of a set of 33" KOs on my Cruiser years ago. My last set of Yokos were shot at 25K. BFG KOs can be hard to get in 15" sizes. They get backordered all the time. 16" seem more readily available.

 

[dbleon]

Have run the yoko geolander... good but not great tire IMO.
.. better than my experience with bfg A/T.

Current set up (Falken rocky moutain A/T) is extemely hard to beat for the money. Very quiet on road, and work well in the dirt/sand/snow. (not tested them in mud). P.S they love to be aired down.

 

[Randy88FJ62]

I have two new Dick Cepek Radial F-C II tires from a fellow club member so I may just buy a few more to complete that set.

The unfortunate thing is that they go on 15" rims so I wouldn't have the options of my current 16" alloys.

 

[gregnash]

Have run the yoko geolander... good but not great tire IMO.
.. better than my experience with bfg A/T.

Current set up (Falken rocky moutain A/T) is extemely hard to beat for the money. Very quiet on road, and work well in the dirt/sand/snow. (not tested them in mud). P.S they love to be aired down.

dbleon - How many miles do you have one them. I have read great things about the Falken's my only concern is that 1) there are no long term reviews and 2) which state about the center tread which look to wear the quickest and would seemingly turn the tire into a roller skate in our winter months.

 

[lehiguy]

Those Falkens do have enough edges to be good in snow and ice, especially after the first 25% of the tread is gone. There is a whole new crop of "All terrains" on the market. Some are obviously street oriented (Hankook Dynapro for example) and some are getting more aggressive like the new Cooper, which also has a 3-ply sidewall like the BFGs. There is a tire comparison online that involves the Dynapro, the BFG KO and something else I can't recall. Although this particular publication liked the Dynapro for it's road manners, they did print without any excuses that in the tougher off-road situations, the BFG was the best.

 

[Kurtis]

The nittos / toyos are a much better bet than the Yokos. They look good to. Most popular at tire for guys that put a lot of highway time but need something that isn't exploding in the sharper rocks.

315/75/16

I personally love the bfg ats. They and the nittos both last over 50k.

The wild peaks wear to fast for a highway vehicle but if your not driving a lot a good value.

The new Cooper ats are legit. I put a set on my 2500hd and they ride and wear great. Nice traction as well. Best value at i have ever bought and i have bought quite a few.

 

[dbleon]

dbleon - How many miles do you have one them. I have read great things about the Falken's my only concern is that 1) there are no long term reviews and 2) which state about the center tread which look to wear the quickest and would seemingly turn the tire into a roller skate in our winter months.

I only have about 10k miles on them.. they seem to be wearing nicely. I have aired them down and beat them up quit a bit... with no visible damages to the tire.

Great budget tire choice IMO.

 

[gregnash]

Ok well I can definitely say to stay away from the Geolander, at least the HT-S. Took the Highlander in for the 90k mile service and the tech said it is about time to get rid of the tires, something like 5/32 (I think) tread left on there and they only have about 35k on them. Like I said, they were great tires when they first started out but we are going to have to replace them before winter hits (thankfully normally not until about late Dec) as we get lots of ice and these were slipping a bit last year already.