Builds Yeller Gold

[Ol Yeller]

I did a bunch of measuring, one that stood out was the lower edge of front fender to axle centre, 15”…



So yeah I’ll be spacing bump stops down, but not yet.

Pretty sure at this point I’m going to find a happy medium on conflicts and carry on. Perfect, no, drivable, yes.

I’ll play around some more before I cut, bend or weld.

 

[RUSH55]

I got this one off a GRAND Wagoneer at a pick n pull. Seems to work

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Looks like that’s on a Saginaw steering box?
The shaft diameter and spline count are different between the two (Scout Saginaw and FJ60), yah?

 

[Ol Yeller]

The issue is when your wheel is turned to the left, drivers side at full bump, passenger side at full drop. The drag link and pitman arm/ball joint all want to occupy the same space.

Yes, I see it.

 

[Pighead]

Looks like that’s on a Saginaw steering box?
The shaft diameter and spline count are different between the two (Scout Saginaw and FJ60), yah?

That's a Scout box. No idea of spline counts

 

[J Mack]

the lower edge of front fender

Is cut off of mine

 

[Ol Yeller]

Is cut off of mine

With 33” tires I’m going to pause the race build mindset and give up some bumpstop travel.

 

[Ol Yeller]

Thoughts after dinner and a bevy or 2…

So the dropped pitman arm reduces the (edit) drag link angle on road and likely 99% of “gravel travel” off roading, seems if I’m going to give up “performance” it will be the 1% spent at or near full articulation.

So tonight’s train of thought is leave the drop arm alone and plan to space the bump stops as required. This will also let me run the box mounted further aft and reduce the other angle on the (edit) drag link.

Win-Win-Loose.

What am I missing in this rationale?

Opinions are like arsewholes…everyone has one, share away!

Here is the approx position at ride height

 

[mrboatman]

That’s a good way to approach it. The question is will you be happy with it or will you always think maybe I should have bent it out a little for clearance? But that’s just something that you can go back at later with out to much trouble.

 

[J Mack]

What am I missing in this rationale?

Shackle angle if that's at ride height is way to straight..
What do they look like at full droop?

 

[Ol Yeller]

Agree

Shackle angle if that's at ride height is way to straight..
What do they look like at full droop?

Agreed, I think it’s bound up on the saw horses a bit, I went through all the angles when I did the shackle measurements and the spring hanger locations.

Full droop

 

[J Mack]

@Ol Yeller
I had the same issue and talk about it here.. Target carrier - https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/target-carrier.796065/page-40#post-9726273

 

[Ol Yeller]

That’s a good way to approach it. The question is will you be happy with it or will you always think maybe I should have bent it out a little for clearance? But that’s just something that you can go back at later with out to much trouble.

Thank you, yes nothing is forever, at some point compromises lead to progress.

 

[Ol Yeller]

I had to take some of the bend out of mine in the press.

I’m going to sandblast that pitman this weekend, if I was to flatten it out a bit after- do I heat it first or is that a no-no for some reason?

Love the feedback in here gents

 

[J Mack]

if I was to flatten it out a bit

Just bend it cold, I put mine in my little 15 ton press and it bent easily...
Use a couple chunks of sacrificial aluminum on the press points so you don't press a hard crease on the pitman arm.

 

[PabloCruise]

Just for Rush because it's been a minute since anybody has posted a forklift flex poser picture....

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We need an entire thread devoted to this!

“Bruh, Do You Even Flex?”

 

[Ol Yeller]

Our club dinner was last night, small turnout but the food and visiting was excellent!

 

[Ol Yeller]

Today I took some drop outta the pitman arm on my press and then mocked it up again.

Full lock and tire will be into the fender long before interference on the arms.

 

[Ol Yeller]

Paint dry on the pitman arm, no paint on splines…torqued to only 50 ftlb on the bench but surprised the splines didn’t go further?

 

[WarDamnEagle]

Not sure what the issue is but that doesn't look right - stating the obvious. Not sure if more torque is the answer or if you have some teeth/groove misalignment?

 

[Ol Yeller]

Got some info on my steering issue, chineesium 80 box has slightly large splines…so just get it tight and move on. At least I know now from someone I trust.

Will be my last day in the office, lunch for the crew and handout Xmas bonus, will be happy for a break.