Ordered mine today. Winter is nearly upon us and it’s difficult to teach the young ones not to play with the windows. This thread reads like an infomercial and I’m the next sucker…but I hope not and admittedly I’m a touch giddy in anticipation.
Window Rocket - who’s tried it? (2 Viewers)
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Designing products is never boring.
I've turned a page in Window Rocket kit development for all non-ABS cruisers and before I toss out all the prototypes and "almost products", I thought it would be interesting to display all the iterations that failed in some aspect up to this point.
From left to right are all the Window Rocket mount designs for FJ80's and RHD no ABS 80 series that did not work. Each part represents a lesson learned a long the way. Each failure made me a little bit smarter.
Some of these designs fit great, but they were beyond difficult to install. Some designs fit super in the cruisers I measured and tested them in, then failed miserably in another Cruiser of the same year, identical model, but featuring completely different wiring and attachment points under the kick panel.
Some of these mounts were to utilize self tapping screws. Turns out some folks despise self tapping screws.
All of the above mounts attemp to utilize factory Toyota mounting locations. Something big I learned a long the way is its not uncommon for these 30 year old vehicles to have other things attached to those mounting points be the owners. Or, even for those mounting points to be completely obliterated in favor of a firewall grommet for wiring.
So with a pretty thorough understanding of how Toyota laid out the under kick panel area on all versions of 80 series ever made, many, many hours crammed under 80 series dashes, and working with several awesome local 80 owners and listening to their feedback, I think we have the rough draft Window Rocket mount for all non-ABS cruisers.
For non-ABS cruisers, We're now using the mounting studs for the relay block used across every 80 series made. This greatly simplifies installation. This studs, although hard to see, are easy to reach with tools and don't require special breathing techniques or contortion skills to reach.
Special machined standoffs will replace the original nuts. The Window Rocket mounts way up high providing clearance for all wiring harness variations and the kick panel fits over all of it.
This is just the prototype. There are several changes in the design already, but I'm optimistic this general design will work great and get non-ABS Window Rockets to market very soon!
Thanks again for buying this product and bringing smiles to everyone who pushes an 80 series window switch!
I've turned a page in Window Rocket kit development for all non-ABS cruisers and before I toss out all the prototypes and "almost products", I thought it would be interesting to display all the iterations that failed in some aspect up to this point.
From left to right are all the Window Rocket mount designs for FJ80's and RHD no ABS 80 series that did not work. Each part represents a lesson learned a long the way. Each failure made me a little bit smarter.
Some of these designs fit great, but they were beyond difficult to install. Some designs fit super in the cruisers I measured and tested them in, then failed miserably in another Cruiser of the same year, identical model, but featuring completely different wiring and attachment points under the kick panel.
Some of these mounts were to utilize self tapping screws. Turns out some folks despise self tapping screws.
All of the above mounts attemp to utilize factory Toyota mounting locations. Something big I learned a long the way is its not uncommon for these 30 year old vehicles to have other things attached to those mounting points be the owners. Or, even for those mounting points to be completely obliterated in favor of a firewall grommet for wiring.
So with a pretty thorough understanding of how Toyota laid out the under kick panel area on all versions of 80 series ever made, many, many hours crammed under 80 series dashes, and working with several awesome local 80 owners and listening to their feedback, I think we have the rough draft Window Rocket mount for all non-ABS cruisers.
For non-ABS cruisers, We're now using the mounting studs for the relay block used across every 80 series made. This greatly simplifies installation. This studs, although hard to see, are easy to reach with tools and don't require special breathing techniques or contortion skills to reach.
Special machined standoffs will replace the original nuts. The Window Rocket mounts way up high providing clearance for all wiring harness variations and the kick panel fits over all of it.
This is just the prototype. There are several changes in the design already, but I'm optimistic this general design will work great and get non-ABS Window Rockets to market very soon!
Thanks again for buying this product and bringing smiles to everyone who pushes an 80 series window switch!
I installed my Window Rocket this weekend and it is as advertised. The only bummer is the drivers side regulator binds and takes several attempts to close the window. No fault of the window rocket but did help to reveal the deficiency in that regulator. Purchase Window Rocket with confidence.
I installed one a couple of weeks ago and works great...hopeful about cold weather stuff to come
Thanks for posting this! It's really cool to see the evolution of the design. As someone who directly benefits from the engineering of others and all of the R&D efforts that they undertake (both in my personal and professional life) it's always neat to see somebody's progress and learning curve through the evolution of design. Well done and I'm patiently waiting for the final iteration. Looking great! Keep up the strong work!
Azca
If there is a harder way - I will find it...
Love the product, significant improvement. Thank you for a job well done!
have you tried opening, cleaning, re-greasing, and checking if the magnets are still in original locations?
A known problem for many.. I guess it depends on the condition/age of your motor and use (and sometimes lucl). Many complain about them here in Australia too. I've had 2 motors and both perform slow (I bought another, assuming the first one was on it's way out). First thing I need to do is test voltage supply before doing anything else.
The original factory grease is known to go hard and stale with age. Also, the glue from the interal magnets fails and they need to be stuck back down into original locations.
Generally once these issues are resolved, they'll work like new again. I'm going to dismantle one of mine in a week or so, I'll create a new thread with images and what I do to address it.
Oh and new blades and a clean windscreen help too!
I bit. So far the product works as advertised. Speed of the windows improved greatly and my passenger rear window, which the po glued into place out of alignment, and has always stuck halfway up, now powers through the bind and goes up first time. I hope the rocket is a long lasting fix.
لقد وصلت إلى المنتج الأسبوع الماضي بعد أن أطلب فقط، ولكن لم تسنح لي الفرصة بتمكينه حتى هذا الصباح:مه:
الجمعة، مقبولة جدًا:رائع:
يبدو أن كل شيء يسير مع جميع الصور التي تراها عبر الإنترنت وتكشف الكثير من الأشياء عالية الجودة
لتغطية حوالي 30 دقيقة من الأنسجة كنت أعاني من برغي واحد معيب كان يحتاج إلى بعض الإقناع باستخدام زوج من ملقطات التثبيت، ولكن ربما كان سيستغرق 10 دقائق إجمالاً إذا سارت الأمور:موز:
يجب أن أقول، إني معجب جدًا وألوم نفسي الآن ولا يمكنك القيام بذلك في وقت أقرب:انفجار:
لم يبدأ تشغيل جهاز الحفر الخاص بي منذ أسبوع الماضي (في منتصف أعمال بعض ما بعد الظهر)، ولكن حتى في البطارية وحده، فإن الفرق واضح للغاية:تصفيق:
جمع هذا الفيديو:
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Malleus
Far west of Siegen
Thanks, Pete. Now I have another project to add to the list. Looks like I'm going to need more grease
NeverFinis
SILVER Star
Above is my first post on this thread.
I decided to purchase one. It shipped quickly and arrived quickly.
It is legit. I will be installing soon, probably today.
The wiring looks high quality and larger than OEM. I wondered why the ground on the relay socket wasn't the only ground used and I think because it might be undersized.
احتاج الى ارسال لي دليل المعلومات من لديه يرسل لي من فضلكم شكرا لكم
NeverFinis
SILVER Star
Post 1 has the link to the website where you can find more information: Window Rocket 80 series Land Cruiser With ABS Brakes - https://powertrain-integration.com/products/window-rocket-80-series-93-97-lhd
شكراً على ردك لكنني احتاج الى صور من دليل النموذج
