What? What are you mad about? You wanted opinions and got them. Don't start threads if you can't handle opinions that don't agree with yours.Get a life
Why the AHC hate?
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Dude, I did not start this thread.
Here’s the quote from PADDO:
“Agreed, the hydraulic elements of this system are of very high quality and robustly engineered. Toyota didn’t skimp on this platform and it’s active suspension at all. Having spent close to three decades in military servo control/hydraulics and related fields I’d comfortably compare the overall quality of engineering design and build to mil spec equipments. It just needs a little basic routine maintenance, like any system.”
I’m not “believing” and “trusting” based on some warm feeling. It’s a matter of proven engineering. But yeah man, you’re still entitled to your opinion. Your opinion won’t affect facts.
It's a Citroen design
I provided some facts. You just sarcastically commented “glad you people trust and believe this system”.
You’re the sht talker, we can all see. But project all you want.
I would but my wheeling requires a more reliable system
How do you know I was being sarcastic? And what facts did you provide besides the opinion of a forum member that believes and trusts this system lol?I provided some facts. You just sarcastically commented “glad you people trust and believe this system”.
The facts are, hundreds of people have had this system fail on them. Myself included. Doing routine maintenance and keeping the fluid clean doesn’t mean it will not fail. Report back when you’re a long ways from home and one of your height sensors fails.... then the whole “robust” theory gets thrown out the window.
Keep believing what you want to believe if it helps you sleep well at night.
Mine never has during the past 4 HIH events, even when towing a loaded down M416 trailer. I also have a rust free truck, flushed the fluid and adjusted the pressures with the load.
I also have a rust free truck. Not sure what that has to do with this. My experience has been difference. And based on doing a quick forum search, I am not alone. My brother’s Lexus dealer has done dozens of these trucks with failed AHC. Most people just trade them in because repairs are so expensive. None of them ever offroad these trucks either.
Ya I like AHC. But on my 20 yr old LX, I didn't want it there.
Left me on bumpstops
$2600 to refresh the suspension. I spent it on Radflos
Can leak at shocks or lines
Not trail repairable
AHC pumps fail
Left me on bumpstops
$2600 to refresh the suspension. I spent it on Radflos
Can leak at shocks or lines
Not trail repairable
AHC pumps fail
And to the guy that thinks I’m hating on AHC. I am not. I loved that system on the street, when the truck was not loaded. It drove super smooth and it was fun to mess with the damping dial as well as lowering the vehicle for easy loading. But on more than one occasion it was acting up on us, both times far away from home and a loaded (apparently overloaded) vehicle. Not fun. Only good thing about it going into Low is that your highway MPG go through the roof!
Cute.
It was, originally, in 1954 or thereabouts. It’s not identical to that 65 year old suspension setup though, obviously. This version was designed by Toyota for the Land Cruiser.
Ok, I’ll play along. Were you being sarcastic?
And again, guys... you’re telling me a convention suspension setup will never fail? Everything fails, eventually.
Reliability is not equal to invincibility.
Fact is, I’ve got over 250k miles and my system works flawlessly, and I’ve only ever had to throw a $300 take off pump at it in that time, plus fluids. Fact is, my truck has never dropped into LO (aside from aforementioned pump failure) despite being full of heavy gear, adults, towing. Fact is, a guy with 3 decades of military experience says it compares to military spec equipment. That is what is known as an “expert,” and yes, I do trust experts. I also provided this nice facty link https://st.club-lexus.ru/attach/u/6b15e9be.pdf
Dealer quoted $2600? They do that. Unlikely it was necessary.
A busted conventional shock is not trail repairable either.
Again, to each his own. There is nothing wrong with going to a conventional setup. But AHC is extremely robust and reliable (just because they can and do eventually break doesn’t change this. EVERYTHING fails eventually, including conventional shocks!) for those that are interested. They just don’t put cheap, breakable crap on the Land Cruiser.
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I'm keeping mine until it breaks, because it drives like a cloud and friends/family always compliment on how well it feels and the insulation of the LX just adds to the great effect. The 2" instant lift is amazing, its not a rock crawler so its perfect amount for the type of places we like to go which is scenic back-roads with low to moderate difficulty to enjoy with the family. I like that i can turn the switch to sport all the way and it eats up dips like a champ! place it on comfort all the way and the kids fall asleep easy riding in that town car air suspension cloud haha!
If its something simple like AHC spheres or a line busts then I'll fix, if its the pump or gets over the 3k mark in one instance then I'd consider replacing for a nice suspension system or go to stock LC suspension at the minimum.
If its something simple like AHC spheres or a line busts then I'll fix, if its the pump or gets over the 3k mark in one instance then I'd consider replacing for a nice suspension system or go to stock LC suspension at the minimum.
FYI you can get a used pump for about $300 and replacement is super simple.
Don’t get what’s all the hate about, when we all know that Jeep > Toyota 
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Who is hating?
This is exactly what I meant, lol. Every few months we have this thread, and it seems like these days it's made by someone randomly defending ACH, not attacking it.
I'll give you my 2 cents. I'm probably going to sell my RCF, and I'm thinking about getting a Cayenne. I used to own a Touareg and it was great all around vehicle - laughable off road compared to a built 100, but a good all around vehicle.
It had air suspension. I want air suspension if I buy a Cayenne. It's great for towing. Would I want a ACH on my LX? Nope, it's gone for a reason. But am I spending any time "hating on it"?
Come on man. Pretending people are hating on it in this forum seems like trolling.
Nobody is hating anything. Seems like the guy is just looking for confirmation about how bulletproof and easy/cheap his AHC system is, and it’s really not. Sure as hell not cheaper and easier to work on than conventional.... fact. Since you like facts.
It was a joke.
I did NOT start this thread, fellas. I merely commented on it, same as the rest of you. And I already agreed that conventional suspension is simpler. You said nobody is hating, yet you’re being snarky with the “facts” bit, and incorrectly suggesting I started this for some confirmation about how great my suspension is. Wtf happened in this thread? My goodness.