It's not the only form, but one of many.
Why do i need a CB?
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daft excuse... My kids when they were 9yrs old could drive our 80. Damn stupid laws required them to be 16 before they could take a mindless written test and wow, even a road test before they could get a license... what is the world coming to eh?
I guess the test must be way too hard for you to pass. And dear me, it requires you to spend all of $15 to sit for it. The whole point is to require folk to learn some radio tech, learn about some regulations and then use their call sign while talking to other hams. This keeps the process at a professional level versus what you hear on CB and some FRS/GMRS bands. The need to get a license and use a call sign has obviously worked in the Ham bands, I have NEVER heard the garbage you hear on CB. Folk don't stomp on other folk to 'claim' a channel etc. With your license you then have the legal ability to transmit with enough power to reach across the country or the world, you want the CB garbage to propagate into that space do you???
cheers,
george.
I guess the test must be way too hard for you to pass. And dear me, it requires you to spend all of $15 to sit for it. The whole point is to require folk to learn some radio tech, learn about some regulations and then use their call sign while talking to other hams. This keeps the process at a professional level versus what you hear on CB and some FRS/GMRS bands. The need to get a license and use a call sign has obviously worked in the Ham bands, I have NEVER heard the garbage you hear on CB. Folk don't stomp on other folk to 'claim' a channel etc. With your license you then have the legal ability to transmit with enough power to reach across the country or the world, you want the CB garbage to propagate into that space do you???
cheers,
george.
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I like the CB but there is no handheld CB, and plenty of handheld HAM (even fisher price have them)
This year I quit my atis mariphone icom-m71 license because the government suddenly want 30 euro for the license (two exams, panpanpan)
Now I just use it on the water in open sea in Croatia, if a emergency needs me to call for help sue me for having no valid license.
(we go to open sea where around us about 40 kilometers no traffic, sometimes in the far distance some sailboats)
not available:
LT-27 handheld 40channels CB radio 27MHz - LUITON
Always good if the spotter gets ahead to look at the road or when with more cars say when it is time for a fuel stop.
EDIT: thanks @Dragos80
I bought one cheap portable Intek H-510 Plus from Italy and this might not be used in the states:
CB frequency 26.965 - 27.405 MHz 26/27Mhz will never receive porto channels UHF 400/470 MHz and are not interchangeable.
Number of channels - 40
The display - YES
modulation - AM
The minimum operating frequency [MHz] 26960
The maximum operating frequency [MHz] 27.400
Output power [W] 4
Supply voltage [V] 13.8
tenderness 0.7 at 20 dB SINAD
Features fast channel - channel 19
Adjusting noise - YES
Connectors
Other connectors
Plug wall charger 230V plug on
MICROPHONE -handset
physical
Height [mm] - 146
Width [mm] - 68
Depth [mm] - 38
General
Colour- Grey
attached equipment
CAR car adapter ADPT 520
Guarantee period - 12 months
PDF manual, 36 pages:
Intec H-510 Plus with diagram and schematic.pdf
This year I quit my atis mariphone icom-m71 license because the government suddenly want 30 euro for the license (two exams, panpanpan)
Now I just use it on the water in open sea in Croatia, if a emergency needs me to call for help sue me for having no valid license.
(we go to open sea where around us about 40 kilometers no traffic, sometimes in the far distance some sailboats)
not available:
LT-27 handheld 40channels CB radio 27MHz - LUITON
Always good if the spotter gets ahead to look at the road or when with more cars say when it is time for a fuel stop.
EDIT: thanks @Dragos80
I bought one cheap portable Intek H-510 Plus from Italy and this might not be used in the states:
CB frequency 26.965 - 27.405 MHz 26/27Mhz will never receive porto channels UHF 400/470 MHz and are not interchangeable.
Number of channels - 40
The display - YES
modulation - AM
The minimum operating frequency [MHz] 26960
The maximum operating frequency [MHz] 27.400
Output power [W] 4
Supply voltage [V] 13.8
tenderness 0.7 at 20 dB SINAD
Features fast channel - channel 19
Adjusting noise - YES
Connectors
Other connectors
Plug wall charger 230V plug on
MICROPHONE -handset
physical
Height [mm] - 146
Width [mm] - 68
Depth [mm] - 38
General
Colour- Grey
attached equipment
CAR car adapter ADPT 520
Guarantee period - 12 months
PDF manual, 36 pages:
Intec H-510 Plus with diagram and schematic.pdf
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I have absolutely no intention on using HAM to talk across the country or the world. I have a cell phone for that. It has many apps a HAM radio cannot have.
It's 2015, not 1915. I can talk across the country very easily if you can believe that. Oh, and quality of the sound is far superior to that of a HAM radio.
Many truckers use the "export" radios just to get away from 11m. Guess what band they use. Unlicensed of course.
In EU you guys use mostly FM for CB, which is far superior to AM CB we use stateside.
This one is for AM, but there is a similar one available in EU too. Handheld CB radio.
75-822 Portable/Mobile CB Radio | Midland Radio Corporation
This one too, made by Cobra
HH 38 WX ST
The EU version is called (Midland) Alan 42 Multi, FM of course.
Since you're from NL, check this website for more CB radios and Alan 42.
www.cbradio.nl: Pictures and Specifications of CB and Export Radios
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Doesn't matter what you plan to use the Ham gear for, if the door is fully open to access the bands without a license, then it's open for all at whatever power level they think they need. It's the same mess as CB. I'd hope even you can agree that if those Ham bands and equipment are freely available to anyone to use without a license without any recall of how they use the bands that it'll just become the same mess that exists on CB and why so many are trying to find an alternative...
This is one area that requiring some level of study and conforming to call sign use makes a lot of sense. The wonderful repeater system that is available on 2m would NOT exist if this was turned into a CB-fest. The Hams that have installed and continue to upgrade and maintain that system do so since it is partly the engineering challenge/satisfaction and partly since it provides a way to extend the coverage/range for other Hams. I can't imagine the large percentage of the twits that live in CB-land that would move into 2M-land and co-operate 'nicely' in the use of repeaters.
Use of call signs ensures that a) one is licensed and b) one can be held accountable for misuse. Pretty simple.
There's a reason that those Ham bands are clean and nice to use, they aren't frequented by delinquents...
If you want FM (UHF), license free, then use FRS in the US. In oz CB moved to UHF many many years ago, also license free. Most oz CB mobile units are 5W and lots of handhelds are available up in the 4W range. Seems you already have access to a reasonably FM UHF band with FRS gear, why do you feel you need to get onto licensed bands without a license?? Just use your cell phone...
Anyhow, I'm done with this subject, seems like you have a personal agenda regarding the need for a license/call sign and nothing any of us will say will change that.
cheers,
george.
This is one area that requiring some level of study and conforming to call sign use makes a lot of sense. The wonderful repeater system that is available on 2m would NOT exist if this was turned into a CB-fest. The Hams that have installed and continue to upgrade and maintain that system do so since it is partly the engineering challenge/satisfaction and partly since it provides a way to extend the coverage/range for other Hams. I can't imagine the large percentage of the twits that live in CB-land that would move into 2M-land and co-operate 'nicely' in the use of repeaters.
Use of call signs ensures that a) one is licensed and b) one can be held accountable for misuse. Pretty simple.
There's a reason that those Ham bands are clean and nice to use, they aren't frequented by delinquents...
If you want FM (UHF), license free, then use FRS in the US. In oz CB moved to UHF many many years ago, also license free. Most oz CB mobile units are 5W and lots of handhelds are available up in the 4W range. Seems you already have access to a reasonably FM UHF band with FRS gear, why do you feel you need to get onto licensed bands without a license?? Just use your cell phone...
Anyhow, I'm done with this subject, seems like you have a personal agenda regarding the need for a license/call sign and nothing any of us will say will change that.
cheers,
george.
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Why do I need a call sign out on the trail?
I don't talk to anyone across the country via radio just to ask how the reception is and request a QSL card mailed back to me.
I don't talk to anyone across the country via radio just to ask how the reception is and request a QSL card mailed back to me.
I'd say it may be worth it if you don't spend huge money on it. I'm licensed for Ham, and I'm planning to take a Dual band Mobile with me when I go up in the cascades exploring. Any of the bands you can run from a Ham mobile will be better than CB for long distance. BUT( and it's a really big one) I don't know anyone other than myself who holds a license or even has an Interest in getting a license and using a Mobile 2m radio up in the woods, all my friends have CB's in their off road rigs and trucks. You still see a ton of CB's around here, To get any cell service you have to be on a ridge top where I like to go camping, it seems like CB's are still the popular replacement.
I have a pair of old GE handheld CB walkie talkies. I'd dig them out if someone wants to give me $25 for them. They are 3 channel, but only one channel is populated with crystals. Not sure what channel it is. They are GI Joe big with metal telescoping antennas.
