Why are my tires rubbing?

[tlcruiserman]

Here's my deal

Based on what has been writen on this thread I would agree your problem is most likely the Backspace on the wheels. They should be able to tell you what the BS is and that might be important to know, also you might want to ask them what those wheel were meant to go on they may know that.

The BS on the FJ is way different than the 40, 55, 60 & 70 series and slightly different than the 80 series. I can not confirm for sure but I think it is differnt than the 4runner and possible the Lexus GX470 (all members of the Prado family).

There is another thread talking about tire sizes and what fits with what lift:

https://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=114399


Just curious, what lift do you have installed on your FJ?


One thing you really should keep in mind, the wrong or a different BS is going to change the handling of your FJ. Could make it better or could make it worse.

Cheers,

Michael

 

[monniepoo]

I'm not really sure what kinda lift I have ... I just know that its 3inch.
BTW I called the place where I got the tires and lift and today. I explained the rubbing and they said... Yeah, that will happen. We can put your old tires back on... uh, no thanks...

 

[Blues Dawg]

I'm not really sure what kinda lift I have ... I just know that its 3inch.
BTW I called the place where I got the tires and lift and today. I explained the rubbing and they said... Yeah, that will happen. We can put your old tires back on... uh, no thanks...

Again, it sounds like it is probably the rims - you should speak with the provider and ask for the correct rims for your vehicle (or at least confirmation thst these have the proper offset/backspacing). They should be able to swap rims out with no trouble. 285's and lift should not cause the rubbing you are seeing. Hope this helps -

cfm

 

[Zack1978]

I'm not really sure what kinda lift I have ... I just know that its 3inch.
BTW I called the place where I got the tires and lift and today. I explained the rubbing and they said... Yeah, that will happen. We can put your old tires back on... uh, no thanks...

WOW THAT IS GREAT CUSTOMER SERVICE!!

 

[cruiser88]

can we have te name of the place that did the work.please

 

[rfjtoy]

It just proves that girls just get screwed dealing with anything auto. I guess I need to take a trip back to the tire shop. They told me no way will these tires rub... I cant even find the size on them!

When I went to 295's I had to trim the frame by the body mounts. For some reason toyota put a full loop around the mount. It's an easy fix, most off0road shops will trim the mount and weld a steel plate there, @ $150.

 

[Beowulf]

What is the "proper" wheel width and BS (either offset or backspacing) for stock FJ Cruiser 17" wheels?

I've seen several of you recommending this to Monniepoo but nobody is giving her specific information on what she can tell the tyre store.

-B-

 

[FirstToy]

I do agree w/ others that the offset of the aftermarket wheels is the cause. However, this is not serious.
monniepoo, thanks for posting the pictures of the rubbing. I bet most of the noise is coming from the front plastic, as that 'echos' when hit.

A simple solution is to zip tie it up to slightly push it out of the way. It is a large, unsupported piece of plastic so it can be manipulated very easily.

The rear will probably clear by removing the mudflap- I am going to guess you don't want to loose the mudflaps so I say live with it at the back- I don't think that is making any noise and the surface is smooth enough that you won't rip anything out while wheeling.

 

[tlcruiserman]

When I went to 295's I had to trim the frame by the body mounts. For some reason toyota put a full loop around the mount. It's an easy fix, most off0road shops will trim the mount and weld a steel plate there, @ $150.

The mount was designed with safety in mind, and it will withstand a side impact with less likelyhood of it riping off or allowing the body to rip off.

Cheers,

Michael

 

[tlcruiserman]

I do agree w/ others that the offset of the aftermarket wheels is the cause. However, this is not serious.
monniepoo, thanks for posting the pictures of the rubbing. I bet most of the noise is coming from the front plastic, as that 'echos' when hit.

A simple solution is to zip tie it up to slightly push it out of the way. It is a large, unsupported piece of plastic so it can be manipulated very easily.

The rear will probably clear by removing the mudflap- I am going to guess you don't want to loose the mudflaps so I say live with it at the back- I don't think that is making any noise and the surface is smooth enough that you won't rip anything out while wheeling.

removing the mud flap will no solve the problem for the back part of the wheel well, it is sitting right up against the body mount sub frame.

 

[FirstToy]

removing the mud flap will no solve the problem for the back part of the wheel well, it is sitting right up against the body mount sub frame.

Maybe, maybe not. That is why I said live with it at the back- I don't think that is making any noise and the surface is smooth enough that you won't rip anything out while wheeling.

and if you look at her photos, it looks like very minor rubbing which is why I said The rear will probablyclear by removing the mudflap
The thickness of the plastic might be all that is rubbing. Even if it isn't , live with it or don't, or trim the bodymount- there is not much else to do.

 

[ButterBean]

I have a FJ with 3" lift 325/60 18 tires on the black moto metal rims and I have the same rubbing. I found the source to be at the rear of the front wheel well. It looks like whoever installed my wheels cut out a peice of the panel and replaced it with a soft rubber piece so I have not been worried about it. It makes some noise but does not seem to be hurting anything so I am just going to live with it.

 

[monniepoo]

I was up at the shop this morning and got the problem all figured out. They will remove the lower piece of the rubber casing in the wheel well and hammer in the metal a bit. Im sure I didn't explain it right ... Im sure it will solve the prob!

Thanks for the imput guys!

Im headin out to the trails...

 

[ats4x4dotcom]

thats the bets way, easy fix, and makes over 1/2 " of space for tyres.

 

[tlcruiserman]

Gees, I give up

Now that I sold my FJ, I am going back to my Diesel forum.

Cheers,

Michael

 

[tlcruiserman]

What is the "proper" wheel width and BS (either offset or backspacing) for stock FJ Cruiser 17" wheels?

I've seen several of you recommending this to Monniepoo but nobody is giving her specific information on what she can tell the tyre store.

-B-

Factory Alloy FJ Cruiser Wheel Backspace is 4 7/8" BS the Wheel is 17" x 7 1/2"

Factory Alloy 80 Series Wheel Backspace is 4 1/2" BS the wheel is 16" x 6"

Factory Steel 40 series Wheel (old style with steel hub cap looms) is 3 1/2" BS the Wheel is 15" x 5 1/2" or 6" (depending on country/year)

Factory Steel Chrome 60 series / 70 series wheel is 3 1/2" BS the wheel is 15" x 6"

I did not feel like doing the calculation for offset instead of Back Space if you want to it there is a few more numbers you will need to know but here is the formula:

To calculate offset you'll need the following measurements:

Wheel backspace
Wheel Width
Wheel Center line (outboard flange to inboard flange measurement / 2)

Subtract:

Wheel center line from Wheel backspace to get offset. If backspace is less than the wheel centerline the offset is negative
If backspace is greater than the wheel centerline the offset is positive

I will include a handy chart, althought you can not use it for the FJ wheels


Cheers,

Michael

 

[Beowulf]

Thanks for the BS measurement Michael.

FYI, the factory 80-Series alloy (93-97) is 16"x8" with 4-1/2" BS (you list it as a 6" width)

-B-

 

[tlcruiserman]

Thanks for the BS measurement Michael.

FYI, the factory 80-Series alloy (93-97) is 16"x8" with 4-1/2" BS (you list it as a 6" width)

-B-

Yep, my bad, thanks for the correction

Cheers,

Michael