Im putting GY Duratracs on the wifes 100. 305's. I know I need wheel spacers with the stock wheels. I was about to order the special ones that have the machined holes in the front for the hubs. These are the custom HUB CENTRIC ones. They are not cheap. I would much rather get them from someone on here, but I wanted to know how critical it is to have the hub centric ones with OEM wheels. Is anyone having issues with the LUG CENTRIC wheel spacers and OEM wheels. Been searching alot today. THis is my wife's truck and I just want to make sure these reg spacers are good to go rather than pay double the cost. I will of course, but if everyone is running them without issues then I will be ok with that.
Wheel Spacers on a 100
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The OEM Wheels are lug-centric and not hub-centric. Get a quality 5x150 14mm stud lug-centric spacer.
My recommendation
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My recommendation
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I certainly could be proven wrong, but the factory wheels on my 100 are hub-centric. In fact, I recently had to clean off the boss on which the wheels are centered in order for them to seat smoothly like I wanted them to. Lug-centric vehicles wouldn't have a boss on which the wheels ride.
Not intending to be a jackass here, so if I've incorrectly assessed the 100 wheel setup, please let me know.
(BTW, to the OP: Eibach sells hub-centric spaces for 100's.)
It looks like my assumption may be wrong.
My assumption was based on the fact that the Lug nuts are tapered. There is conflicting info on here but most of it points to them being Hub Centric.
https://forum.ih8mud.com/100-series-cruisers/101338-100-wheels-hub-centric.html
That said most of the high quality spacers people run are not hub centric.
Here are some more threads with wheel spacer info.
Also a good choice and 0.25" narrower.
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If he wants DT's, they don't come in 295. I loved the way my 305's looked...but thats about it. I'm much happier with the 285's from a functional standpoint.
I think you'd be alright either way with the proper lug nuts. Each type of centering technique accomplishes the same end result. Besides, how many options are there for a 5x150mm spacer are there?
As for my $.02, I believe then to be lug centric. The hub is a close fit but not tight enough to be hub centric. Many ATV wheels (our SAE Baja vehicle) are hub centric. The lug centric design offers a much more secure and more accurate way of centering the wheel. This is why our SAE Formula vehicle uses this design as well.
As for my $.02, I believe then to be lug centric. The hub is a close fit but not tight enough to be hub centric. Many ATV wheels (our SAE Baja vehicle) are hub centric. The lug centric design offers a much more secure and more accurate way of centering the wheel. This is why our SAE Formula vehicle uses this design as well.
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I'm glad I'm not alone. When I put a wheel on the hub boss there is considerable play.
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Thx! Im glad I asked prior to paying 400$ for those! I like the 305. I'd rather have the 295 but the DT doesn't come in that. I'll get the reg ones. For some reason I thought they were hub centric. Haven't turned a wrench on the 100 yet! This weekend im gonna do some work on it! Finally settling into the new place.
Wheel spacer/adapter size might preclude you from running a hub centric spacer. I do not think you can do a .75-1" spacer that is hub centric. It would have to be 1.5" or maybe 1.25" (not sure).
That said, I have run non-hubcentric spacers for the past 6 years w/o any problems. I do apply blue loctite to the spacer/hub studs. No loctite on the spacer/wheel studs.
That said, I have run non-hubcentric spacers for the past 6 years w/o any problems. I do apply blue loctite to the spacer/hub studs. No loctite on the spacer/wheel studs.
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The reason that those are so expensive is because they are made with quality materials and machines, holding close tolerances. Whereas some you may find on ebay are manufactured elsewhere (China) out of inferior materials with poor quality control, thus making them cheaper. So be careful, it is not whether to go hub or lug centric, it is the source!
That's why I was assuming the 100 wheels are hub centric. I live in the south where rust is not at all an issue; however, all 4 of my wheels fit very snugly on the hub (2003 LX470 with factory wheels).......In fact, it's to the point where I have to keep the wheel "landing" clean in order for them to slide on smoothly.
I am planning to go to a 325/60-18 on my 2000 Land Cruiser, and if I do, I'll be using either a 25mm or 30mm spacer.......most likely these: 2000 Toyota Land Cruiser Eibach Wheel Spacers, Eibach Spacers, Wheel Spacer
Lug centric. I got a set from Nils at JT's like the other poster. Excellent quality. They center on the lugs, it would take some serious fckup to install them incorrectly.
Just as an FYI I linked the wrong spacers before in my post above, so I've now corrected the link. I hope I didn't cause you to screw up. Although maybe the 1" will work fine?
100 Wheels are hub centric. The reference to the wheel balancer in the other the other thread does not show it is lug centric. It just has to do with how you mount the wheel on the balancer. The other part they did not show you is he pieces that fits into the center of the hub of the wheel. It is just a better way to get the wheel perfectly centered on the machine vs using the cone on the shaft to center the wheel.
The issue with running lug centeric spacers has to do with how the wheel attaches to the spacer. The spacer will always seat properly on the hub if it is correctly made, but there is no lip for the wheel to center. You could run a hub centric one on the back, but not on the front where the wheel hub sticks through the spacer. Unless the spacer is really thick, or specially made. There is details floating around to machine a hub centric spacer to work with the hubs on the 100, but they are not readily available.
When mounting the wheel to the spacer, use large M14 cone style lugnuts to get the wheel centered initially on the spacer, then remove them and replace with the correct lugnuts one at a time.
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Well I just got the Goodyear Duratrac in a 305/70-16. Theyll be here later today. I need some spacers now. Im going with the SLEE/ JT ones. I dont think the 400$ is worth the custom hub centric ones. The wheel does not sit tight enough for me to justify them. Enough people are running the lug centric ones and thats good for me.
Medic, make sure you get the spacers before the tires are installed. The strike face of the steering knuckle will do permanent damage to the front two tires if you install them before the spacers go on. I went through that process a few months ago, not cool.
I remember reading a post somewhere talking about (i think) the minimum width a spacer should be (should one use them) and not having the need to file down the studs. Can someone here correct me?
Also, with a stock rim ( in my case stock 18's), I'm thinking about possibly getting the duratracs in the 275/70/18 size. Does anyone know what size spacer may be required to make the rim/tire sit "flush" to the edge of the fender?
Also, does anyone make hub-centric spacers for our 100's?
Also, with a stock rim ( in my case stock 18's), I'm thinking about possibly getting the duratracs in the 275/70/18 size. Does anyone know what size spacer may be required to make the rim/tire sit "flush" to the edge of the fender?
Also, does anyone make hub-centric spacers for our 100's?
Per Eibach's website, they have hubcentric spacers for the 100 series, in 25mm and 30mm thicknesses. Word of caution... the pic shows a 5-lug spacer, but the spec states 6-lugs. Perhaps someone at Eibach could clarify.