What makes the 100 such a great SUV?

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I've owned some 80s and know what they over, coil sprung, SFA, Front and Rear e-locker, 7 main bearings and on and on... So when I'm getting into a debate with some moron in a Jeep (this has to do with the person and not the ride, not saying morons drive Jeeps here or that Jeep owners are morons, this is just one situation that may come up within a random population of people with x amout of transportation options) I can tell him flat out why my Cruiser is better...

So, what does the 100 series Cruiser offer in terms of quality control, internal features and so on that's worth bragging about? Like the 4 link IFS, I don't know what that is and why if at all it's better then normal... Come on guys, please arm me with the ammo needed to battle morons in other 4x4s.....
 
Excerpts from article in Automotive Industries, Feb. 1998, by Lindsay Brook

Design/Engineering: Chassis

Design of UZJ100, as the '98 Cruiser program is coded, was frozen in mid-1994, says veteran chief engineer Takeo Kondo. At that point, the previous FJ80 model was three years old. And as on every previous Cruiser, UZJ100 has body-on-frame construction.
"There was never any consideration of unibody design," Kondo tells AI. "Long-term durability has always been the number one goal of the Land Cruiser program," he explains, "and we expect these vehicles to be on the road for at least 25 years." Range Rover was the program's primary benchmark, particularly for suspension articulation, chassis stiffness and interior appointments.

Kondo's team completely re-engineered the FJ80's ladder frame, adding three extra crossmembers (now nine) and beefing up the side rail structure. Each crossmember is set into the rails using new bracketry, which Toyota calls a flared-flange-type joint (see Illustration). Frame rail wall thickness has been increased to 3.2mm, and the boxed rails include internal stiffening plates welded within their front 48 inches. Kondo claims this helps maintain frame integrity during a frontal impact, keeping the front end from "folding up" into the passenger compartment.

Kondo says none of the Cruiser's frame components is hydroformed nor does any Toyota program currently use this increasingly popular method of metalforming (see June '97 AI, p. 57 and Dec. '97, p. 40). The new frame surpassed the benchmark Range Rover frame in bending and torsional rigidity, claims Kondo (he did not reveal actual frequencies), while boosting overall rigidity by 5096 versus the old FJ80's frame. The stiffer frame allows more compliant suspension bushings and body mounts, helping to improve the new Cruiser's ride comfort. Two types of body mounts are used: compression and lateral-restriction.

The '98 Cruiser switches to an independent front suspension (IFS), based on upper and lower control arms and longitudinal torsion bars. The latter mount to a frame crossmember via a floating member designed to control fore/aft stability of the EFS and limit road-induced NVH. For the vehicle to match its go-anywhere image, all critical running gear, including suspension lower control arms, mounts high. The rack-and-pinion steering gear mounts above the front crossmember, which also protects the engine oil pan and radiator. Both torsion bars are protected by a large skid plate. Minimum ground clearance is nearly 10 inches, and the Cruiser's suspension stroke is among the industry's longest: 200mm front, 240mm rear.

The new Cruiser's Aisin-supplied ABS operates even in 4-wheel low while the center diff is locked. The system is able to "read" road conditions and vehicle dynamics, decreasing the amount of anti-lock applied according to suspension travel, road gradient and abrupt changes in vehicle speed. Foundation brakes feature 4-piston calipers and 12.2-inch ventilated rotors in front, and huge 12.9-inch rear rotors.

Design/Engineering: Body

Also improving the overall structure, and the body's dimensional accuracy, are new one-piece bodysides, claimed by Toyota to be the largest on any light vehicle. The large panels replace the FJ80's two-piece welded bodysides. High-strength steel reinforces all pillars and door sills. Door and rear liftgate jambs are wider for improved ingress/egress and cargo loading.

Dynamically, the UJZ100's structural changes have wrought a vehicle devoid of any body flex or squeaks when flung over the roughest terrain we could find at Borrego Springs, a California desert off-road park that's far more amenable to motocross bikes and extreme dune buggies than luxury SUVs. Driven back-to-back versus a '97 FJ80 over washboard dirt roads, the '98 Cruiser's NVH attenuation is noticeably better. Toyota has added more melt-on asphalt sheeting to the floorpan, and has increased the amount of sound-deading urethane foam and pads injected into pillars and roof rails. On the highway, wind noise is lower due to faster (by three degrees) A-pillars, and new flush-mount windshield and rear quarter window glass.

The extra stiffness and refined manners come at a price, however--mass. The new, all-steel-bodied Cruiser weighs nearly 500 pounds more than its predecessor, mostly due to the chassis and body upgrades. Kondo says there was no plan to offset the added mass with lighter weight components, such as aluminum body panels. At nearly 6,500 pounds GVWR, the Cruiser is actually a medium-duty vehicle.

Powertrain: New V-8

Land Cruiser finally gets a V-8 (a first for any Toyota-badged vehicle), but the new 4.7L engine does not contribute to the new model's extra heft. Even with its cast-iron cylinder block, the dohc, 32-valve V-8 weighs 66 pounds less than the FJ80s 4.5L inline six.
Program boss Kondo admits he wasn't initially sold on the V-8. "We evaluated the (Lexus) aluminum-block car V-8 early on, but it did not have enough low- and midrange torque for our vehicle," he recalls.
So he chose displacement. The UJZ100 design spec required an iron block, with extensive ribbing for bulletproof durability. Manufacturing efficiency called for the Cruiser's block to be machined on the same Tahara plant line as the 4.0L Lexus car V-8. Thus both blocks share common bore centers, but the Cruiser's has the maximum displacement permitted by the Tahara line. The 94mm bore is 6.4mm larger and stroke, at 83.5mm, is 1mm longer than on the car V-8. Besides its iron block and more displacement, Toyota's new "truck V-8" also differs from its car cousins in combustion chamber shape (though valve angles are the same as the 4.0L), cam profiles, and intake manifold geometry. It has a stouter crankshaft, and the con rod big-end bearing shells are aluminum. Package efficiency was also critical; the V8's designers placed the water pump and starter motor inside the block's "vee" to save space.

Powerful 32-bit engine control and effective catalysis, plus Denso top-feed injectors and coil-on-plug ignition, help certify the new Cruiser as a Low Emission Vehicle (LEV) in California. Claimed output is 230 hp at 4,800 rpm, and 320 lb-ft of torque at 3,400. That's a boost of 18 hp and 45 lb-ft over the old inline 6. At presstime, city/highway fuel economy was estimated at 14/16 mpg, more frugal than with the six This basic V-8 will also power the '99 T100 pickup, although rumors persist that the T100 engine will have sohc cylinder heads.

As fits a true 4A, the '98 Cruiser retains a 2-speed Aisin transfer case (and 2.48:1 low range). U.S. market models only offer a 4-speed electronic automatic transmission, sourced by Aisin A-W, While the center and rear differentials are still (optional) "lockers," the Cruiser's new IFS with torsion bars forced the elimination of the FJ80's locking front diff.

Interior:

A slightly wider and longer cabin features a subtly refined IP, and an increased array of storage areas overhead, in consoles and cubbies, and in the door panels. Rear seat legroom is up by nearly three inches, and front seats have almost two extra inches of fore/aft slide. There is also an engine immobilizer, a trio of 12-volt power outlets, and power swing-out rear windows.

Manufacturing:

Land Cruisers are made the old-fashioned way. Chassis are fully assembled at Toyota's Honsha plant in Toyota City, then trucked across town to Araco, a Toyota kieretsu affiliate. Araco, which produces the company's Coaster minibus, stamps the massive one-piece bodysides on the largest press in Toyota's inventory. It also builds the Cruiser's body and assembles the vehicle.
 
Just a few pics to supplement Calamari's post.
LC100laddeframe.webp
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Very excellent great perfect just what I was looking for kinda info!! I guess that does beat out Hank eatin grits while he's building the Jeep at the good ol' plant in Mississippi!!! (Not that grits, Mississippi or Hank are bad.... Gotta be pc here)....

I looked for info but had a really tough time finding what I wanted, most things were just on the 05 or 06.... Can somebody please tell me what the four link IFS is too while we're at this....
 
This may be the article I remembered reading back in '98-99.

In any case - now you know why replacing the starter or water pump takes more than an hour - the "...designers placed the water pump and starter motor inside the block's "vee" to save space."

Is the 100 perfect? No - there is no perfect vehicle. But I like it. And if you know anything about different automotive design/build details you can see a major difference between something like the 100 vs. something like a Jeep, in the details. Lots of things evident in a 100 that will help it last longer with fewer problems, lots of better-designed, better-made details. I think my LX is definitely aging better at 97k than a typical Big Three vehicle, and certainly much better than any Big Three vehicle I've owned.
 
The front IFS is a torsion bar system with upper and lower control arms. Everything is up front is beefy including the CV axles and differential.

The rear end is a four link coil sprung solid axle. 9.5" rear end.

Honestly, anyone with half a brain can just look underneath these things and see how beefy everything is.

Like the Tinkster said, no vehicle is perfect, but for a large SUV, these things are really close.

This aint your momma's Trail Rated poser light duty unibody Jeep SUV. Hell, I own a Heep SUV too and its closer to a RAV 4 than a Land Cruiser in structural design and strength. If you put a light duty 2spd transfer and solid rear axle in a RAV 4, you have a Jeep SUV.
 
Just4Fun said:
I've owned some 80s and know what they over, coil sprung, SFA, Front and Rear e-locker, 7 main bearings and on and on... So when I'm getting into a debate with some moron in a Jeep (this has to do with the person and not the ride, not saying morons drive Jeeps here or that Jeep owners are morons, this is just one situation that may come up within a random population of people with x amout of transportation options) I can tell him flat out why my Cruiser is better...

So, what does the 100 series Cruiser offer in terms of quality control, internal features and so on that's worth bragging about? Like the 4 link IFS, I don't know what that is and why if at all it's better then normal... Come on guys, please arm me with the ammo needed to battle morons in other 4x4s.....

I wheel with Jeepers all the time. Some are my very good friends. In general, a Wrangler, due it's small size, light weight, blah blah can outwheel an 80 or a 100 any day.
I can tell you though to go and wheel a 100 with the Jeepers. At first, some will snicker and give you looks, and that's GREAT.....because....when the obstacles come and they see you complete them and with such easiness and in such a luxory vehicle....you'll notice all the "faces" and "comments" stop. Next thing you know you're one of the group. :)
Oh....and good luck breaking something in your 100. I rarely attend a Jeep event where somebody doesn't bust something on an obstacle the 100 walked up. Enjoy!
 
ShottsUZJ100 said:
I wheel with Jeepers all the time. Some are my very good friends. In general, a Wrangler, due it's small size, light weight, blah blah can outwheel an 80 or a 100 any day.
I can tell you though to go and wheel a 100 with the Jeepers. At first, some will snicker and give you looks, and that's GREAT.....because....when the obstacles come and they see you complete them and with such easiness and in such a luxory vehicle....you'll notice all the "faces" and "comments" stop. Next thing you know you're one of the group. :)
Oh....and good luck breaking something in your 100. I rarely attend a Jeep event where somebody doesn't bust something on an obstacle the 100 walked up. Enjoy!

I hear you John but what I'm saying is the Jeep SUV is not a TJ with traditional ladder frame truck construction. Jeeps can be built into incredible machines or you can buy a Rubicon with decent axles and not break s*** all the time but their SUV's are simply not put together like a Land Cruiser or even a 4runner. I am serious when I say my Liberty is a RAV 4 with a 2spd transfer and a solid rear axle (only without the build quality).

I've seen that same dumb look at Corral Canyon a few times. Guy with a totally built Jeep is impressed as I take on simple speedbump obsticles. Has no idea that his jeep can do much more. He says, wow, can't believe you wheel that thing here. I tell him I can't believe you are driving that thing on the "bunny slopes" with your 37" tires.

But the facts speak for themselves. Check out the hardware on an 80 or even a 100 then compare it to a POS Grand Cherokee and you don't have any more arguement. Damn things are built solid. Wish I could own one of each LC ever built.
 
calamaridog said:
I hear you John but what I'm saying is the Jeep SUV is not a TJ with traditional ladder frame truck construction. Jeeps can be built into incredible machines or you can buy a Rubicon with decent axles and not break s*** all the time but their SUV's are simply not put together like a Land Cruiser or even a 4runner. I am serious when I say my Liberty is a RAV 4 with a 2spd transfer and a solid rear axle (only without the build quality).

I've seen that same dumb look at Corral Canyon a few times. Guy with a totally built Jeep is impressed as I take on simple speedbump obsticles. Has no idea that his jeep can do much more. He says, wow, can't believe you wheel that thing here. I tell him I can't believe you are driving that thing on the "bunny slopes" with your 37" tires.

But the facts speak for themselves. Check out the hardware on an 80 or even a 100 then compare it to a POS Grand Cherokee and you don't have any more arguement. Damn things are built solid. Wish I could own one of each LC ever built.

AHHH JEEP SUV? That's totally different.

Sure....A XJ or ZJ or WJ can be super wheelers because they too are smaller and lighter. But they are breakmobiles. In Sedona I've been on two trips where Grand's busted motor mounts and one ate the radiator. You can't open and close doors unless they're on flat ground. They're toys compared. And I'd luv to wheel with a new Commander. 100 vs Commander. :D
 

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