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I've cut a sidewall or two - but...
What Exactly was he doing?
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Looks like he drove on it completely flat for a few miles.
I think he air'd down too much.
I agree - I have seen that many times in off road racing
He may have trouble with that spare.. Just a guss though
Howdy! I had one that looked like that. The second year I went to the Fossil Creek cleanup. Goin up the BeeLine about 70 mph, I felt it start to go, but by the time I got it stopped, it looked about like that. A little too late for a plug job or an inner tube!! John
BFG's?
Come on.. you could still tube that bad boy and add some fix a flat 
Once that rubber get sandwiched beween the edge of the hard rim and the blacktop, it doesnt take long to grind it up!
Once that rubber get sandwiched beween the edge of the hard rim and the blacktop, it doesnt take long to grind it up!
Howdy! My rim did not have any damage on it. I was surprised, considering the rig was loaded for a weekend of camping. And, yes, I am running BFG Krawlers. The tire was old enough to be out of warantee, but the tread was deep enough that Discount covered it. They did right by me. John... but the rim is spotless!
There must be another explaination ...
Alien encounter ?
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It looks like they upgraded the others to MTR's. IMHO a high speed delamination, there are 3 likely possabilitys:
It was an old tire, rubber hardens and is more prone to failure.
It was run at low pressure and high speed, this will overheat the tire and can cause that type of failure.
Some runs of BFG's had a interior delamination problem. The only way to find it is to remove from the rim and inspect the inside of the tire or wait till it comes apart like that.
It was an old tire, rubber hardens and is more prone to failure.
It was run at low pressure and high speed, this will overheat the tire and can cause that type of failure.
Some runs of BFG's had a interior delamination problem. The only way to find it is to remove from the rim and inspect the inside of the tire or wait till it comes apart like that.
I vote for running it until it falls apart. It's a whole lot more entertaining! So, seriously, has anyone heard if the new KM2 hs this problem? Is there anything else out there similar to the Krawler that I can go to? I have been able to run them below 15 psi and beat the snot out of them. I have never had a flat, popped a bead, or slipped the tire on the rim, and I do not run beadlocks. They are a bit pricey, so I am always looking for alternatives. John
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... but the rim is spotless!
There must be another explaination ...
Alien encounter ?
That was my thought exactly...I parked next to this 'rover at the airport last week. I looked over the rim, as the picture shows, (even thought it was my phone taking the pic) the rim was perfect on the lip.
It looked like he was happy keeping it back there as display of being a hard core wheeler
, as plenty of dust / dirt had sttled over the whole spare, it had been sitting for quita a while.
That was my thought exactly...I parked next to this 'rover at the airport last week. I looked over the rim, as the picture shows, (even thought it was my phone taking the pic) the rim was perfect on the lip.
It looked like he was happy keeping it back there as display of being a hard core wheeler
Ironically, after seeing the new MTA's on the rig, the old style on the perfect rim, I thought the same thing.
Think about it, your on to something here...
Tire guy probably gave him the
look when he said "Mount this on my rim"
Running fast at low pressure. I learned the hard way.
When I got sick of having a real job, I went to work for AAA. That was a great job. 3 1/2 days a week, long weekends every week. Great bene's. I almost ran the department for the company, as I usually do.
I saw this a lot. People jump in without looking at the tires. A soft tire at speed overheats, and shreds the sidewall exactly this way. Something to think about when you are tempted to drive home at trail pressures! It doesn't matter if the sidewalls are 2" or 6" tall. overheating is the same.
Air your tires up properly, or drive a short distance very slowly!
When I air up, I am using a 110v Porter-Cable compressor. It still takes about 30 minutes to air up from trail pressures with 35" tires to 34 PSI. Often, it is faster to just go home to my big compressor. It is only 10 miles or so. But at trail pressure, I am limited to 45 MPH, in the right lane. I hate it.
Always take the time to air back up! That is why you bought that pump. It saves a lot on tire costs.
Most times when I saw this tire condition, the owner was oblivious. She had no idea that a tire was soft. The soft tire is usually on the right side of the car. If it was on the left side, she might see it. Statistically, most flats happen on the right side, where the low part of the road is, and the driver is not looking at the tires. That is why tires end up looking like the one above. Nails, screws, and sharp objects fall to the low point, the right side of the road. That is the side of the car that the driver is least aware of.
By AAA statistics, most flat tires are on the right rear tire. The level is 75%. 3/4 of all road sedan flats are on the RR tire. That applies to flats on pavement cars and all flattened tires combined. In my experience the statistic is accurate. It does not apply to off-road vehicles. There is a real reason for this. It gives us something to watch out for.
Roads are designed to shed water. The lowest part of a road is the right side. Objects such as nails, bits of glass, and other puncturing objects gather at the low part of the street. In the street gutter. That is where your right-side tires live. The closer you drive to the gutter, the more you expose your right-side tires to these hazards.
A nail laying flat in the road is harmless to a tire. In a horizontal position, it cannot puncture. But your front tire kicks it up. It begins to tumble over. Then your RR tire catches it. The nail is driven into the tread by the weight of your car. Two days later you have a flat tire. It is not magic, it is simple physics.
We may all be really cool guys, but being cool will not remove us from basic physical rules. I have patched the tires on some really fancy Bentleys. The rules of physics do not really care! They drove in the gutter lane, and got flats like the rest of us!
Maybe everyone should drive a 4x4 with plugs in the sidewalls like I do. Both of my brothers got 50K out of sets of Nitto's. I have holed the sidewalls of mine so many times that I will be lucky to get 30K. I often wake up to find flat tires. I air them up every day. I never wheel my truck! My tires have certainly never been abused!
You should check your tires in the mornings. It is a part of my routine! I have a low tire one morning of every three, at best. I often wake up to a flat tire. I air it up and go! The compressor in the truck will take care of the rest of the day. I drive mostly 75 miles a day or more.
There is a simple cure; You always have to put some junk in the car. A briefcase, whatever. Put it in the passenger side, and look at the tires. Then get in the drivers' side, and look at the tires.
If you do this every day, you know how the tires are supposed to look. You don't need a pressure guage to know when a tire is soft if you pay attention. Tire pressures are checked every 3000 miles if you have good maintenence. In between, it is your job. You should know how a normal tire looks. If it looks soft, don't drive on it!
Maybe you are late. You will be a lot more late after shredding a tire, plus the cost of one or more tires. It pays to glance at the tires every morning! They are most vulnerable to nails every mile. Just look at them every morning! It's not that hard! It will save you a lot of expense and trouble.
When I got sick of having a real job, I went to work for AAA. That was a great job. 3 1/2 days a week, long weekends every week. Great bene's. I almost ran the department for the company, as I usually do.
I saw this a lot. People jump in without looking at the tires. A soft tire at speed overheats, and shreds the sidewall exactly this way. Something to think about when you are tempted to drive home at trail pressures! It doesn't matter if the sidewalls are 2" or 6" tall. overheating is the same.
Air your tires up properly, or drive a short distance very slowly!
When I air up, I am using a 110v Porter-Cable compressor. It still takes about 30 minutes to air up from trail pressures with 35" tires to 34 PSI. Often, it is faster to just go home to my big compressor. It is only 10 miles or so. But at trail pressure, I am limited to 45 MPH, in the right lane. I hate it.
Always take the time to air back up! That is why you bought that pump. It saves a lot on tire costs.
Most times when I saw this tire condition, the owner was oblivious. She had no idea that a tire was soft. The soft tire is usually on the right side of the car. If it was on the left side, she might see it. Statistically, most flats happen on the right side, where the low part of the road is, and the driver is not looking at the tires. That is why tires end up looking like the one above. Nails, screws, and sharp objects fall to the low point, the right side of the road. That is the side of the car that the driver is least aware of.
By AAA statistics, most flat tires are on the right rear tire. The level is 75%. 3/4 of all road sedan flats are on the RR tire. That applies to flats on pavement cars and all flattened tires combined. In my experience the statistic is accurate. It does not apply to off-road vehicles. There is a real reason for this. It gives us something to watch out for.
Roads are designed to shed water. The lowest part of a road is the right side. Objects such as nails, bits of glass, and other puncturing objects gather at the low part of the street. In the street gutter. That is where your right-side tires live. The closer you drive to the gutter, the more you expose your right-side tires to these hazards.
A nail laying flat in the road is harmless to a tire. In a horizontal position, it cannot puncture. But your front tire kicks it up. It begins to tumble over. Then your RR tire catches it. The nail is driven into the tread by the weight of your car. Two days later you have a flat tire. It is not magic, it is simple physics.
We may all be really cool guys, but being cool will not remove us from basic physical rules. I have patched the tires on some really fancy Bentleys. The rules of physics do not really care! They drove in the gutter lane, and got flats like the rest of us!
Maybe everyone should drive a 4x4 with plugs in the sidewalls like I do. Both of my brothers got 50K out of sets of Nitto's. I have holed the sidewalls of mine so many times that I will be lucky to get 30K. I often wake up to find flat tires. I air them up every day. I never wheel my truck! My tires have certainly never been abused!
You should check your tires in the mornings. It is a part of my routine! I have a low tire one morning of every three, at best. I often wake up to a flat tire. I air it up and go! The compressor in the truck will take care of the rest of the day. I drive mostly 75 miles a day or more.
There is a simple cure; You always have to put some junk in the car. A briefcase, whatever. Put it in the passenger side, and look at the tires. Then get in the drivers' side, and look at the tires.
If you do this every day, you know how the tires are supposed to look. You don't need a pressure guage to know when a tire is soft if you pay attention. Tire pressures are checked every 3000 miles if you have good maintenence. In between, it is your job. You should know how a normal tire looks. If it looks soft, don't drive on it!
Maybe you are late. You will be a lot more late after shredding a tire, plus the cost of one or more tires. It pays to glance at the tires every morning! They are most vulnerable to nails every mile. Just look at them every morning! It's not that hard! It will save you a lot of expense and trouble.
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Brian, do you mean 3 minutes a tire? It can't take 30 minutes all the way around with an inverter run compressor?
It takes about 3-5 minutes per tire. But it seems a lot longer as I am watching the overworked alternater every minute.
Look at it this way; I have two 4-guage cables running through the body to the inverter in the back. They are not fused, direct power. The cables are very seriously insulated. They are really scary! The truck is very seriously wired.
This inverter can run a microwave, a table saw, and a chop saw at once. And we can also make Margaritas in the blender at the same time! While doing that, I can run the air compressor to air up the tires! This inverter is a monster! My truck puts out almost as much power as my home uses, including the AC! It is a Toyota Generator. It produces enough electricity to run my home, and more. I can camp!
The only problem is that it is too much. It is really overkill! I have never been able to overload this unit, even when I ran my whole house on my truck.
I need a smaller inverter to provide power to the console area. For laptops and cel phones, it is cheaper to make 115v power in the truck than to buy the various adapters. So I need another inverter. The unit above is much too large to run every day. it will drain the system.
I need to run a smaller unit as a constant.
Look at it this way; I have two 4-guage cables running through the body to the inverter in the back. They are not fused, direct power. The cables are very seriously insulated. They are really scary! The truck is very seriously wired.
This inverter can run a microwave, a table saw, and a chop saw at once. And we can also make Margaritas in the blender at the same time! While doing that, I can run the air compressor to air up the tires! This inverter is a monster! My truck puts out almost as much power as my home uses, including the AC! It is a Toyota Generator. It produces enough electricity to run my home, and more. I can camp!
The only problem is that it is too much. It is really overkill! I have never been able to overload this unit, even when I ran my whole house on my truck.
I need a smaller inverter to provide power to the console area. For laptops and cel phones, it is cheaper to make 115v power in the truck than to buy the various adapters. So I need another inverter. The unit above is much too large to run every day. it will drain the system.
I need to run a smaller unit as a constant.
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