Upgrading the brakes on 2010 GX 460?? (1 Viewer)

[r2m]

I don't know much about this brake kit, as I haven't convinced myself that it is worth it to spend the money to upgrade the calipers. However, the web site does say that the new calipers allow you to use thicker discs, which will help with heat dissipation. From my experience, aftermarket brake calipers are always expensive because of the engineering, development, and testing involved. Brakes are a safety item, so I would hope a manufacturer conducts sufficient lifetime testing prior to release to the public.

I would be interested to see if calipers from an LX570 would be an upgrade over ours, as they would fit a larger-diameter brake rotor. Unfortunately, they may also necessitate an 18" wheel to provide sufficient clearance.

Humm... Retrofitting the LX570/Landcruiser 200 series rotors and and calibers may require quite a bit of fabricating considering that the mounting for the calibers will have to sit further out from the center of the hub. This will increase torque leverage the further the caliber hangs out there.

 

[JDUB fab]

Reviving this thread, I’m looking to swap the pads and rotors front and back. Looking at the EBS lines and trying to make sense of alll the options and colors. Anyone have issues with the drilled and slotted rotors? What pads y’all have and how have they performed. Will also be upgrading to stainless (extended) lines and flushing the fluid.

 

[Nismo275]

Reviving this thread, I’m looking to swap the pads and rotors front and back. Looking at the EBS lines and trying to make sense of alll the options and colors. Anyone have issues with the drilled and slotted rotors? What pads y’all have and how have they performed. Will also be upgrading to stainless (extended) lines and flushing the fluid.

So I installed the drilled and slotted rotors with Orange stuff pads about two years ago. They lasted about a year, then the passenger front rotor warped (regardless of if “warped” is the terminology you want to use, I know there is some argument about that term, that is for all intents and purposes what happened). Replaced the front brakes to the slotted rotors and orange stuff pads, they lasted 6 months, then the front driver side warped. I just replaced those and the calipers after EBC sent me a warranty set of front brakes with slotted rotors and red stuff pads. I’ll see how that goes, I’ve followed the break in process for every set and it doesn't seem to make a difference. I did some cursory searching and found I’m not alone, warped rotors seem to be an issue with the GX. Maybe not a super common one, but I’ve just been chalking it up to the lift/armor/full drawers when there are stock GXs having the issue.

TLDR: I’ve had a rough time with EBC brakes on the GX. Used them all the time on other vehicles, and they were awesome.

 

[re_guderian]

Just re-reading the thread bump, and noticed that @zhs is in Odessa, Ukraine. He hasn't been around much since then, hope all is well.

I have a rear caliper with frozen piston. Gonna start with replacing that and see if braking comes up to the "below-par-but-barely-acceptable" level.

 

[JDUB fab]

So I installed the drilled and slotted rotors with Orange stuff pads about two years ago. They lasted about a year, then the passenger front rotor warped (regardless of if “warped” is the terminology you want to use, I know there is some argument about that term, that is for all intents and purposes what happened). Replaced the front brakes to the slotted rotors and orange stuff pads, they lasted 6 months, then the front driver side warped. I just replaced those and the calipers after EBC sent me a warranty set of front brakes with slotted rotors and red stuff pads. I’ll see how that goes, I’ve followed the break in process for every set and it doesn't seem to make a difference. I did some cursory searching and found I’m not alone, warped rotors seem to be an issue with the GX. Maybe not a super common one, but I’ve just been chalking it up to the lift/armor/full drawers when there are stock GXs having the issue.

TLDR: I’ve had a rough time with EBC brakes on the GX. Used them all the time on other vehicles, and they were awesome.

Def the info I’m looking for. I wonder if the non drilled rotors would hold up better?

 

[Nismo275]

Def the info I’m looking for. I wonder if the non drilled rotors would hold up better?

I’m not a brake scientist, but that was my thought. More structural integrity/material to hopefully prevent it from warping. Honestly if these warp again I’m just gonna just go to a standard rotor with good pads.

But I’m sure some others can chime in with different experiences.

 

[MrTorgue]

Reviving this thread, I’m looking to swap the pads and rotors front and back. Looking at the EBS lines and trying to make sense of alll the options and colors. Anyone have issues with the drilled and slotted rotors? What pads y’all have and how have they performed. Will also be upgrading to stainless (extended) lines and flushing the fluid.

Zero issues with my PowerStops, in fact they are the best brakes I've ever had.

 

[Rednexus]

I'm running basic Bosch solid rotors (were brand new on the rig when I got it), Bosch quiet-cast pads, Napa reman calipers, and PowerStop SS lines, all front and rear. No issues with warping in ~3 years and ~35K, including on the skinnier 470 front rotors. Braking performance is good, including the pedal feel. The PowerStop lines were only $92 or so for all 6 on RockAuto.

That being said I'll probably do the PowerStop drilled/slotted upgrade in the next couple of years, along with GX460 front calipers, as folks seem to like it, and I'd like to pull our camper out West where braking demands and overheat potential will be higher.

 

[Banandalorian]

I'll be installing Stoptech slotted rotors and pads this weekend. I tend to avoid drilled rotors since they have a habit of cracking but I had a good experience with Stoptech slotted rotors in my Fiesta ST and hope to have the same with the GX.

 

[JDUB fab]

Please add some pics and a follow up on how they do @Banandalorian

 

[Banandalorian]

FYI the front caliper bolts are kind of a SOB to get off but otherwise it's going smoothly.

 

[Banandalorian]

Update: The little clips must be for a different vehicle/caliper that uses the same pad. I saved them in case I'm wrong.

The new rear pads came with more shims and clips than came off the old pads. Anyone know what those little clips are meant to do?

 

[JDUB fab]

FYI the front caliper bolts are kind of a SOB to get off but otherwise it's going smoothly.

View attachment 3399412

Looking good! What kit number did you go with?

 

[Banandalorian]

Update:

Looking good! What kit number did you go with?

Stoptech 934.44018 - Street Disc Brake Rotor and Pad Kit, Slotted, 4-Wheel Set

Aggressive Look Black E-Coated Sport Rotors. StopTech Street Pads. Improved Braking Performance. Low Dust. Quiet

www.buybrakes.com

Initial driving impressions are good. The initial bite/pedal feel is much improved. If you don't have stuck caliper bolts this would be a super easy install.

 

[Acrad]

I didn't realize how bad my brakes were.

I pad slapped them years ago so they still had stock rotors on them. Pad's were probably within 6 months of hitting the wear indicators.

The last two days I fully replaced pads, rotors and brake hardware. I just stuck with stock but very...very noticeable difference in braking performance.

I also did a Motive pressure flush on the brake fluid on all 4 channels.

Dealer had done one at 30k miles or so and now have around 85K miles on my '12. Front fluid was hazy but the rear were actually significantly darker and even maybe a tiny bit of cloudiness.

Motive Products - One Man Bleeder & Filler Products

Keep Your Fluids at Peak Performance. Get professional results with the our one-man bleeder and fillers.

www.motiveproducts.com

I used this cap to pressurize the system with the Motive.

"Power Probe BA10 Small Adapter for Toyota is a small adapter that fits Toyota and Lexus master cylinders with diameters of 1.65–1.83 inches. It features an expandable O-ring for a leak-free seal, 3 tab cam locks, and a 360 degree swivel automotive style air hose nipple. The BA10 is also color coded red to identify it as a Toyota brake adapter"

I know some like to only put air in the pressure bleeder but I fill it with brake fluid so I can just move to the next wheel. A little denatured alcohol cleans it up fine.

 

[Washingtontaco]

I didn't realize how bad my brakes were.

I pad slapped them years ago so they still had stock rotors on them. Pad's were probably within 6 months of hitting the wear indicators.

The last two days I fully replaced pads, rotors and brake hardware. I just stuck with stock but very...very noticeable difference in braking performance.

I also did a Motive pressure flush on the brake fluid on all 4 channels.

Dealer had done one at 30k miles or so and now have around 85K miles on my '12. Front fluid was hazy but the rear were actually significantly darker and even maybe a tiny bit of cloudiness.

Motive Products - One Man Bleeder & Filler Products

Keep Your Fluids at Peak Performance. Get professional results with the our one-man bleeder and fillers.

www.motiveproducts.com

I used this cap to pressurize the system with the Motive.

"Power Probe BA10 Small Adapter for Toyota is a small adapter that fits Toyota and Lexus master cylinders with diameters of 1.65–1.83 inches. It features an expandable O-ring for a leak-free seal, 3 tab cam locks, and a 360 degree swivel automotive style air hose nipple. The BA10 is also color coded red to identify it as a Toyota brake adapter"

I know some like to only put air in the pressure bleeder but I fill it with brake fluid so I can just move to the next wheel. A little denatured alcohol cleans it up fine.

Thanks, I have the Motive and found the adaptors to be insuficent.

Just replaced the front pads and turned the stock rotors. I will be doing the same fot the rear tomorrow.

I did the first gen Taco BBK, essentially put a 1st gen Tundra caliper and pads on a drilled and slotted rotor on a 1st gen Taco. Was great for about 6 months, then I got small rocks in the drilled rotor holes, the right caliper started sticking. Put new calipers on and replacd the drilled rotors with sloted. When I sold the truck the right caliper started to stick again.

I might expereimanet with diffrent front pads and rotors this winter.