Towing a 40 with an FJ Cruiser

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Wait.. you're coming from Florida, so it must ALL be up hill :D
 
In 6th gear, I could not keep my speed up at 75mph. I had it in 5th most of the time, and some uphills in N.Ga on had to put it in 4th. @ 75mph in 5th gear it was turning 3200RPM. I could stick it to the floor on hills and still loose RPM's and speed. I'm not here to complain, just thought I would let some of you know the information i have from my trip.

That is working the engine hard.
Maybe you should slow down to 60 or so.
Your wallet and engine will thank you.
 
I pulled the forty with my Chevy Tahoe at about 12.5 mph, 75 mph on the cruise control.
Tellico to West Palm in 13 hours.
Told uhaul I was towing a Toyota Camry, needed it for 3 or 4 days or so.
Man were they pissed when I brought it back 8 Days later.
After wheelin' now my wife wants to trade in the Tahoe and get a FJC, with all of the extras.
Thanks Todd for the help!
When we got back from GSMTR she bought Bill Cross' 37 tires and wheels for me.
Truck looks nice on the taller tires.
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All I need now is that winch and I am ready for next year. (Yes I get the punchline.)
 
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Not to hijack the thread, but has anyone actually used a tow dolly to haul a FJ40 behind an FJC? I was afraid that the combined weight of the '40 and a trailer might exceed the 5000# rated towing capacity of the FJC. A dolly weighs significantly less. I am going to pull the rear driveshaft on the '40.
But I'd really like to know of any first-hand experience with a tow dolly.

Ed
 
My buddy rolled his Tacoma and BJ42 coming back from Moab using a dolly.
I would never use a dolly with a heavy truck like a 40.
And yes. A trailer and a 40, along with supplies ect far exceeds the tow capacity of the FJC.
My 18 foot trailer with the 40 on top (along with tools and gear) was just shy of 7500lbs.
 
A dolly may weigh less but it doesn't have brakes. This means your FJC must stop a combined weight of 8 - 9K# which is scary at best. The FJC has the same drive train as the Taco which is rated at 6,500# with the tow package. Add a tranny cooler to your FJC and hope for the best!
 
You can get a dolly with surge brakes. A friend had one that he used to tow his 40 with his 80. Works great.
 
Who's rig did you end up pulling home?
Heather...I was the other Todd with the tan 40 LTDFJ yanked around the east coast. I met you when you guys stopped by Big Oak.


Especially the first with a U-Haul trailer. I just had an experience with U-Haul recently not willing to rent me a 4 wheel car hauler because my pickup wasn't BIG enough !! It's an 06 Chevy 2wd 6100GVW with factory towing package and 5.3L etc. rated to pull 8000 lbs. Next time I want to rent a trailer, I'm gonna tell them I'm pulling a Honda civic!!
That's not actually an '82 40 on that trailer, it's a '97 Civic with a new suspension, 35"s, custom body panels, a straight 6 and some other goodies. Just ask uhaul!

Wait.. you're coming from Florida, so it must ALL be up hill :D
At least half of the trip.

When we got back from GSMTR she bought Bill Cross' 37 tires and wheels for me.
Saw that one coming a mile away. Congrats Martin!

You can get a dolly with surge brakes. A friend had one that he used to tow his 40 with his 80. Works great.
The uhaul trailer had the surge brakes. Nice feature for sure.
 
No difference in engine torque due to cylinder configuration. Engine displacement is the spec to look at.

Michael

This is not quite true.
While a lower displacement engine usually makes less torque, a long stroke inline six will develop its torque at 700rpm and up. Like my Land Cruiser 2F.
The wife's mini van makes less torque with its overhead cam V6. And all of it is at much higher rpm's. Not near as usable off-road.
So when people talk about the torquey old inline six's, they are speaking correctly!
 
This is not quite true.
While a lower displacement engine usually makes less torque, a long stroke inline six will develop its torque at 700rpm and up. Like my Land Cruiser 2F.
The wife's mini van makes less torque with its overhead cam V6. And all of it is at much higher rpm's. Not near as usable off-road.
So when people talk about the torquey old inline six's, they are speaking correctly!



X2............its all about the stroke. Really
 
This is not quite true.
While a lower displacement engine usually makes less torque, a long stroke inline six will develop its torque at 700rpm and up. Like my Land Cruiser 2F.
The wife's mini van makes less torque with its overhead cam V6. And all of it is at much higher rpm's. Not near as usable off-road.
So when people talk about the torquey old inline six's, they are speaking correctly!

This is so true-Nothing that burns gas makes torque at low RPM like a 2F, however, almost nothing makes as little power per displacement as a 2F either.
 
Degnol asked about towing an 40 on a dolly with an FJC. Here is a pic of my FJC towing my FJ55 on a dolly. Only brought it up from Tucson (about 1. 5 hour drive) but it was no problem. The longer wheel base on the 55 makes a big difference stablity wise though. Cruising speed was about 70 - 75mph. Stopping was not an issue with the FJC brakes.

I had previously towed a FJ40 on a U-Haul trailer across town but that was very squirrelly and unstable. Thought I was going to loose it a couple of times above 55mph. It was too much weight once the rear end squatted down. I had factory springs but if you could keep the rear end up or had heavy duty springs it might have been better. The tow dolly is the way to go for shorter distances.
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I had previously towed a FJ40 on a U-Haul trailer across town but that was very squirrelly and unstable. Thought I was going to loose it a couple of times above 55mph. It was too much weight once the rear end squatted down. I had factory springs but if you could keep the rear end up or had heavy duty springs it might have been better. The tow dolly is the way to go for shorter distances.

LTDFJ had the heavier-duty Old Man Emu suspension when he towed my 40. All-around performance I don't think you can beat the Old Man Emu stuff. They do a lot more r&d before they put the product out to the public...imho.
 
Heather...I was the other Todd with the tan 40 LTDFJ yanked around the east coast. I met you when you guys stopped by Big Oak.

Yep...I remember you! It was great to meet you! Hope to be able to wheel with you sometime soon!

Degnol asked about towing an 40 on a dolly with an FJC. Here is a pic of my FJC towing my FJ55 on a dolly. Only brought it up from Tucson (about 1. 5 hour drive) but it was no problem. The longer wheel base on the 55 makes a big difference stablity wise though. Cruising speed was about 70 - 75mph. Stopping was not an issue with the FJC brakes.

I had previously towed a FJ40 on a U-Haul trailer across town but that was very squirrelly and unstable. Thought I was going to loose it a couple of times above 55mph. It was too much weight once the rear end squatted down. I had factory springs but if you could keep the rear end up or had heavy duty springs it might have been better. The tow dolly is the way to go for shorter distances.

That is so going to be me in no time. I am currently restoring my piggy and will have to tow it to the paint shop and back. I am glad to see the tow dolly used EXACTLY as I intend...even down to the red and white pig!
 
Just my opinion but I just towed my 40 across flat ole florida with a 4.7 V8 Durango on the UHaul flat bed and it was happy at 55 mph no overdrive and was at 2500 rpm. I'm with others that sustaining over 2500 rpm for a long time is a bad idea. I never did put it into overdrive but the truck has 145,000 miles too..

Trailer was great, the way I figured it was the 40 has a curb weight of 3,500lbs and the trailer is another I think 600lbs. Was I wrong about that?
 
Trailer was great, the way I figured it was the 40 has a curb weight of 3,500lbs and the trailer is another I think 600lbs. Was I wrong about that?

I think the uhaul trailer is closer to 2,000lbs, according uhaul.
 
The trailer is a beast for sure, checked it out and 2000lb is right

Once you get up to speed as long as you settle in and are not in a hurry it rides like the truck isn't even back there

Anything over 55 -60 mph, no thanks. plus what's the rush, you're on vacation!!

Surge brakes on the trailer worked great trailer didn't push at all. Scariest part was loading the 40 on the trailer, being from Florida, going up any sort of incline is an alien concept.
 
Towing any type of weight on a trailer with any vehicle with a wheel base shorter than a pickup with an 8' box without an equilizer hitch is foolish IMO
 
Toyota forbids the use of an equalizer hitch with the FZJ-80. Anyone know why? I am guessing maybe the ABS?
Kenton

Towing any type of weight on a trailer with any vehicle with a wheel base shorter than a pickup with an 8' box without an equilizer hitch is foolish IMO
 

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