I've been really happy with the Toyo AT3's. I ran BFG K02's for 60k miles and they were good but the AT3's are better in the snow, which was my main focus.
Tire opinions... Michelin Defender LTX M/S vs Toyo Open Country AT3 vs (something else?)
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One thing to note about LT type tires is they hold up better to airing down than standard load tires. Slow rock crawling is not the issue. It’s when you’re traveling 25 to maybe even 50 miles an hour on washboard type roads when you’re aired down. The damage to the standard load tires is almost invisible, and can lead to eventual sidewall failure. LT tires don’t seem to suffer from the airing down stress to the side walls. Those of us that are experienced like to air down when going off road, for various reasons. So it’s best to be aware of this when choosing tires to run. I got this little tidbit from @LandCruiserPhil when we were talking about tires on a run back into the Maze in Utah several years ago.
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Thanks, everyone, for the input! Very much appreciated!
After a lot of back and forth, I've opted to go with the Toyo ATIIIs in SL 265/75-16. I have good experience with these, and although they are not the quietest, they are orders of magnitude quieter than the Yok G003s and I am confident in their wet and snow performance. Plus, they are over almost $500 less for a set of 5 than the Defender LTXs. While I am sure I would have been happy with the LTXs, I just can't justify spending almost 30% more for very limited benefit. Getting them installed tomorrow morning.
I'll post them up on the classifieds later, but if anyone is interested in a set of five (5) Yokohama Geolandar M/T G003s, LT265/75-16s for local pickup in St. Louis, let me know. I'm not giving them away, but I would like to sell them for a reasonable price. Less than a year old, about 3,000 miles on four of them, one is a never-driven-on spare, and they've never been off-pavement. I'll get the exact mileage and age when I post them.
Thanks again!
After a lot of back and forth, I've opted to go with the Toyo ATIIIs in SL 265/75-16. I have good experience with these, and although they are not the quietest, they are orders of magnitude quieter than the Yok G003s and I am confident in their wet and snow performance. Plus, they are over almost $500 less for a set of 5 than the Defender LTXs. While I am sure I would have been happy with the LTXs, I just can't justify spending almost 30% more for very limited benefit. Getting them installed tomorrow morning.
I'll post them up on the classifieds later, but if anyone is interested in a set of five (5) Yokohama Geolandar M/T G003s, LT265/75-16s for local pickup in St. Louis, let me know. I'm not giving them away, but I would like to sell them for a reasonable price. Less than a year old, about 3,000 miles on four of them, one is a never-driven-on spare, and they've never been off-pavement. I'll get the exact mileage and age when I post them.
Thanks again!
Extremely happy with my Yokohama Geolandar G018 ATs. Great on a stock daily, smooth, nice steering response and very quiet for an AT.
Really happy with both my Toyo M55’s and Falken Wildpeaks. Wildpeaks have amazing wear resistance. That being said after 50-60,000km their winter performance has declined, 5th gen 4R. I do not drive my 80 in the winter, M55’s on that and I am very happy with their performance in all other conditions.
80 had LTX’s when I bought it, great tire and from your description I think the Defender's are your answer
80 had LTX’s when I bought it, great tire and from your description I think the Defender's are your answer
I have Terra Grapplers on my 80. They are great offroad and on dry pavement, sketchy AF on wet roads, I'd guess, forget about it on snowy and icy highway.
Wear rate also wasn't impressive compared to BFG's I had previously.
Truth!
Was thinking exactly this about WildPeaks.
Wife had them on a lifted Rav4. Wear rate was not great, and they were very noisy at highway speeds.
BUT . . . to be fair, the lift and suspension wasn't fully dialed in so I'm sure that contributed to adverse wear
Opinions will be very subjective based on
- rig set up ( lift, weight, maintenance etc),
- personal driving style (miss daisy vs Travis Pastrami),
- use case ( fair weather coffee shop warrior vs daily 100m commute, vs hard core wheeler)
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Got the Toyo ATIIIs installed this morning...
Amazing what a difference 14 less pounds of unsprung weight per corner makes! She drives like new!
Amazing what a difference 14 less pounds of unsprung weight per corner makes! She drives like new!
I put Pirelli Scorpion A/T Plus on a company work truck in my previous job.
I thought they were outstanding for highway use. Good in the wet and dry, quiet. Didn't have them long enough to chop infant in wear rate though, and no snow use.
Cost was very reasonable compared to Michelins, BFGs etc
I thought they were outstanding for highway use. Good in the wet and dry, quiet. Didn't have them long enough to chop infant in wear rate though, and no snow use.
Cost was very reasonable compared to Michelins, BFGs etc
I had Michelin LTX's and Defenders past 25yrs on my 97 LX450. They are super nice and comfortable ride and handles very well in wet and snow.
Last year I repainted my rig and upgraded the stock suspension with OME and my mechanic suggested to go with bigger tires on the stock wheels with Falken Wildpeaks AT4W's. They are not as cushy as the defenders but handles very well on highways and in wet condition.
Last year I repainted my rig and upgraded the stock suspension with OME and my mechanic suggested to go with bigger tires on the stock wheels with Falken Wildpeaks AT4W's. They are not as cushy as the defenders but handles very well on highways and in wet condition.