Time for a new starter?

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Seems pretty obvious. Battery is strong. A month ago the starter didn't crank at all, I turned the key off and on and it worked fine. Then yesterday it started doing what you hear in the video, real weak initially then cranks fine.

I have a camping trip planned this weekend but am thinking maybe I should rent a car.

Thanks.
 
Your starter sounds tired. Probably worn contacts internally. Try a FJ60 gear reduction starter. I wore out a couple of starters then switched to the gear reduction one. 15 years and no issues so far. Good luck!
 
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^^ This.
 
Ordered with express delivery
 
Well that made a world of difference.



Guessing my old starter was after market since all the extra wires were already taped off. Came out without a hitch. Start to finish the whole process took maybe 30 minutes.

Here are a few comparative pics of the old and new starters:

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(updated image links so they work now)

Thanks for the advice, it was the right choice for me.
 
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Sorry in advance for piggy backing your thread but it seems that I have a starter motor problem too and I don't want to start yet another thread about it.

After sitting this cold winter, my FJ40 would not start. I was barely cranking, so I suspected the battery being dead. I ordered and installed a new one. I tested the old battery and it was fubar.
After installation, the engine started up, but cranking seemed sluggish. I though it might have been that the new battery was not fully charged so I put it on a charger for a couple of hours.

I spent today springtime cleaning up the FJ40, so I had to move it. When I was done cleaning, I wanted to park it back but I could not start it anymore. It is like the battery is completely dead. It does nothing when I turn the key, no solenoid or relay clicking, no starter motor sound, nada. I checked the wires and the fuses (maybe I overlooked one?) I charged the battery again and even tried to boost it.

What I did notice is that the moment I put my key in the ON position, my clock dims and my amp meter goes to the left and even leaves the scale, almost as if something is pulling al lot of amps, but I hear nothing. When turning the key to the starting position, everything sims (clock, interior light) but like I said, nothing happens.

Should I buy in a new starter motor? And if so, would this one be the one (it needs to be shipped to Canada, so I want to make sure)


** UPDATE **

I've solved the problem. The Fusable link was shot. The Ammeter ultimately gave it away. I disconnected the starter motor and the ammeter still went negative. So it could not be a short in the starter motor. I followed the wiring and stumbled into the broken fusable link. It probably went when I was working on the winch. I don't use it much and I was really fighting me.
 
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Can someone give me the part number and let me know if it is compatible with A 1970 F engine.
Thanks

Mine went directly into a 1F engine. Straight bolt on, you just need to use the single signal cable, otherwise everything was very straight forward.

PN is 28100-60070-84
 

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