Thinking of selling my 200... (1 Viewer)
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What are the pros and cons of each from your standpoint? Here are my views.
200
Pros
Already own and modified
Best 4x4 on the planet
Cons
Fuel Mileage
Size
You will encure a depreciation hit
4Runner TE
Pros
More basic
Less Expensive purchase price
Cons
More basic
More Narrow
Retail price since it is the hot 4x4 now
Is there anyway to rent a 4Runner for a week and make sure that is what you want even if it is not a TE edition.
What are the pros and cons of each from your standpoint? Here are my views.
200
Pros
Already own and modified
Best 4x4 on the planet
Cons
Fuel Mileage
Size
You will encure a depreciation hit
4Runner TE
Pros
More basic
Less Expensive purchase price
Cons
More basic
More Narrow
Retail price since it is the hot 4x4 now
Is there anyway to rent a 4Runner for a week and make sure that is what you want even if it is not a TE edition.
From what I have seen/heard/read so far, the Land Cruiser is built for more rugged use than the 4Runner. While the 4Runner is a nice vehicle, I think the LC wins out as far a durability/quality of construction. The 4Runner is purpose built for North American consumers and our lovely network of paved high speed roads, whereas the LC is intended to handle driving in/on anything and everything and has been "civilized" for the US market. It really depends on you. Do an honest assessment of what you need the vehicle for and then decide.
It might be nice to be able to actually take your truck into a dealer and have them know what it is though
It might be nice to be able to actually take your truck into a dealer and have them know what it is though
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Part of my problem is that since moving to a large city (6mil+) the LC is overkill. Also, wheelin spots are way less than where I used to live. My biggest concern is the hit I'll take on the sale of he LC, but then I kinda feel silly dropping my son off for school and having a huge ARB with winch. A stock trail edition would be way more civilized while also allowing me to do the odd wheeling adventure (which have been virtually non-existant since my move). I would miss the 5.7, but have done a bunch of driving in the 4runner and like the weight with the v6. And finally, I've modded the LC quite a bit and am bored. It would be nice to have a new vehicle to play with and make sure I don't make the mistakes I made the first time around. Lots to think about and I look forward to more comments. Thanks.
Bored = expensive
unless u have a buyer for the 200 then this will be a pricey trade
most robot citizens have no clue about arb's or Land Cruisers. They do whatever
the tv tells them to do. Do not turn into a robot!
unless u have a buyer for the 200 then this will be a pricey trade
most robot citizens have no clue about arb's or Land Cruisers. They do whatever
the tv tells them to do. Do not turn into a robot!
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You're right...same thing my wife was just telling me as we sit here and talk about it.
dont do it; the tech from the land cruiser is gonna trickle down to other models and the 4 runner was the first to get the land cruiser's stuff. the only thing you would benefit from is fuel economy. as for the overkill of the built up 200 series? thats what vacations are for!!
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LC200 + bumper w/ winch = way cooler... ask your son.
Have you hooked up with the UCLC group? If you want to get out wheeling in your area they seem like a pretty good bunch (never met any of them, but I've heard stories
). Ontario/Quebec are somewhat limited for wheeling opportunities, but you've gotta make do with what you have. That ARB must make merging in traffic a bit easier for you eh? It seems like there is no financial motivation to this idea (mpgs, car payments etc) or any other requirements (towing capacity, power, seating) so it sounds like the idea of a 4Runner appeals to your "wants" more than your "needs". If you're bored and want a different project, why don't you pick up an old 40/55/60/80 to play with and keep you entertained?
sell your mods off and start over on the 200. I'm sure whoever buys your arb will give you their stock front bumper cover.
a lot cheaper than selling and buying another car.
I almost went with the new 4runner. I have to admit that it has more of a sportier/younger aspect to it as compared to the 200, but personally it just didn't feel as bulletproof as the 200. And the engine wasn't bad or anything, but I still like the 5.7 in the 200 more.
Plus, seeing as the new 4runner was pretty much just released, I doubt there's much aftermarket stuff out there for it yet.
If you're bored and have the cash to spend, why not pick up an old jeep or jeep-style lc and keep your 200. It'd be smaller for the city and probably cheaper or around the same price of the loss you'd take if you sold the 200. I don't know about you, but personally I think that working to upgrade/restore one of those things would hold my attention for a while!
Course, if you're just looking for something to play/mod with, you could go with an old muscle car. By default a car would be easier in a city. While the modding for the car would be much different than what you would do to a new 4runner, focusing on performance and appearance as opposed to offroad capability, it could still be interesting, especially considering how you said you don't get many opportunities to go wheeling anyway. And, you'd still get to keep your 200, which you've obviously put a good deal of work into.
But that's just my $.02
Regardless, good luck with your decision!
Plus, seeing as the new 4runner was pretty much just released, I doubt there's much aftermarket stuff out there for it yet.
If you're bored and have the cash to spend, why not pick up an old jeep or jeep-style lc and keep your 200. It'd be smaller for the city and probably cheaper or around the same price of the loss you'd take if you sold the 200. I don't know about you, but personally I think that working to upgrade/restore one of those things would hold my attention for a while!
Course, if you're just looking for something to play/mod with, you could go with an old muscle car. By default a car would be easier in a city. While the modding for the car would be much different than what you would do to a new 4runner, focusing on performance and appearance as opposed to offroad capability, it could still be interesting, especially considering how you said you don't get many opportunities to go wheeling anyway. And, you'd still get to keep your 200, which you've obviously put a good deal of work into.
But that's just my $.02
Regardless, good luck with your decision!
R u CRAZY! The top two reasons I bought the LC200
1.safety- I have kids and want them protected
4runner-your toast
2.reliablity-bet built Toyota over all other models. For price it better be.
What mods would you have done differently and started with first?
1.safety- I have kids and want them protected
4runner-your toast
2.reliablity-bet built Toyota over all other models. For price it better be.
What mods would you have done differently and started with first?
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Yeah...who the F&%K am I kidding. I'm not selling anything.
I get like this every now and then. I really do want a 3rd ride in the garage (that doesn't even fit one) again. I've been looking at 40s for a couple of years. I've test drove 3 that were in the $6000 range, and searched a couple more in the $12,000 to $16,000, but nothing has struck. I've also searched for a Porsche for 4 years and nothing is taken me there, and have recently been searching for a Chevelle or Malibu, but no luck.
And maybe in the end, I just need a vacation, I nice looooonnnngggg roadtrip in the beast.
I get like this every now and then. I really do want a 3rd ride in the garage (that doesn't even fit one) again. I've been looking at 40s for a couple of years. I've test drove 3 that were in the $6000 range, and searched a couple more in the $12,000 to $16,000, but nothing has struck. I've also searched for a Porsche for 4 years and nothing is taken me there, and have recently been searching for a Chevelle or Malibu, but no luck.
And maybe in the end, I just need a vacation, I nice looooonnnngggg roadtrip in the beast.
Fine decision.
I think that where you are going wrong is in the use of the Cruiser.
You need to buy a jet boat and haul the boat with the Cruiser. The 4Runner (V6 torque? WTF?) just won't cut it.
You can do all the mods to the boat, B.O.A.T. means Bring On Another Thousand, that you can do to a car. Engine, steering, pump, stereo, interior and paint. And party with a whole new crowd that hangs out, largely, in the same parts of the country that Cruiser guys go to.
Although part of me wants to find out what a 200 would sell for in Canada I would take the hit on depreciation and put that money into a new toy.
You need to buy a jet boat and haul the boat with the Cruiser. The 4Runner (V6 torque? WTF?) just won't cut it.
You can do all the mods to the boat, B.O.A.T. means Bring On Another Thousand, that you can do to a car. Engine, steering, pump, stereo, interior and paint. And party with a whole new crowd that hangs out, largely, in the same parts of the country that Cruiser guys go to.
Although part of me wants to find out what a 200 would sell for in Canada I would take the hit on depreciation and put that money into a new toy.
Cruiserdrew
On the way there
If I had a 200, which I don't(my brother does) there is no way I'd get rid of it. It's going to be better than a 4R in every way. It just uses more gas. Big deal.
You are on to something though. Half the fun is planning and modding and thinking and trying new stuff. There isn't much of that with a 200. It's too nice to really modify.
Here is a radical idea----get yourself an FJ62. There are a bazillon mods for it-everything from new suspension to spring overs, to MT conversions, to crawl boxes to high strength parts. You can get the truck for $3500 or so, which is pocket change if you're buying a 200. Then make it what you want. It will still have fuel injection and the basic Land Cruiser goodness that is pervasive in the model line. Then go wheel it, tear it up, have fun.
A 40 is a whole different animal. Are you sure you want to go down that road?
You are on to something though. Half the fun is planning and modding and thinking and trying new stuff. There isn't much of that with a 200. It's too nice to really modify.
Here is a radical idea----get yourself an FJ62. There are a bazillon mods for it-everything from new suspension to spring overs, to MT conversions, to crawl boxes to high strength parts. You can get the truck for $3500 or so, which is pocket change if you're buying a 200. Then make it what you want. It will still have fuel injection and the basic Land Cruiser goodness that is pervasive in the model line. Then go wheel it, tear it up, have fun.
A 40 is a whole different animal. Are you sure you want to go down that road?
5th gen 4Runner has a rear locker - 200 doesn't.
5th gen 4Runner has wheeled the Rubicon with minor mods, 200 hasn't.
5th gen 4Runner will have more mods sooner (bigger fan base) than the 200.
5th gen 4Runner costs less.
5th gen 4Runner looks better - more agressive (have you see the Ivan Stewart BAJA 5th Gen?).
I'd still go for a 200 though if I had the choice
5th gen 4Runner has wheeled the Rubicon with minor mods, 200 hasn't.
5th gen 4Runner will have more mods sooner (bigger fan base) than the 200.
5th gen 4Runner costs less.
5th gen 4Runner looks better - more agressive (have you see the Ivan Stewart BAJA 5th Gen?).
I'd still go for a 200 though if I had the choice
Oh, please. The 4Runner has just as many safety features as the LC. Air bags, side air bags, head curtain air bags, brake assist, ESP, etc. Both are large, heavy vehicles, with relatively high centers of gravity. Both have excellent crash ratings, and moderate rollover ratings.
I don't see anything that shows that the LC is "better built" than the 4Runner.
There are plenty of valid reasons to prefer the LC over the 2010 4Runner TE. The LC is bigger, far more luxurious, and has a Torsen center diff giving it full-time 4WD. The 2010 4Runner TE does not have a Torsen center diff -- it has a part-time 4WD system that can not be used on a dry pavement.
Let's stick to valid arguments for one or the other, and skip the vapid ones.
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Some good arguments supporting my reasons for the 4runner...I don't need the luxury as my wife just purchased a 2010 Q7 TDI, and I would like the option and economy of 2wd with the option of 4hi, 4lo and rear locker when I need. It just seems since my move a lot of the travelling I have done has been city and roads, not fireroads and wheelin.
Your chances of surviving a crash is much further increased in an LC200 over the 4runner. Its physics, weight is king in almost every single crash. The 4runner is tipsy due to its wheel base and stance vs. the LC200. The LC200 has a better resale value then any other suv on the market!FACT! The crash ratings are based on size/class/price. You can not compare the these vehicles side by side. I test drove the new 4runner and it would tip around corners at the speeds I can take the LC at.
