Sweet Deal but No Locker

[landtoy80]

I might have a chance to get a 99 100 for a Super Sweet price.
It doesn't have a locker though

How hard and $$$ to install factory locker?

Is it worth it to get a 100 without locker and install it later?

 

[spressomon]

I might have a chance to get a 99 100 for a Super Sweet price.
It doesn't have a locker though

How hard and $$$ to install factory locker?

Is it worth it to get a 100 without locker and install it later?

I think that is a rare rig! I would rather opt for a '00+ with the TRAC since you will have to install a locker(s) anyway...and it will be, based upon other's opinions here, a better rig from an overall traction/safety perspective...and you may decide, depending upon how and where you intend to use your rig, you can get along without the locker anyway...on a '00+ LC/LX.


Figure about $1,100-$1,200 for an ARB rear locker and the mini ARB compressor and $250 for a diff shop to install just the locker portion. This assumes YOU remove the 3rd member and YOU install the compressor and line. Otherwise I'd say add another $800 or so to pay someone else to do that portion.

 

[landtoy80]

I am going to use it as a replacement to my old 80.
Its going to be a rock smasher.
Is it a good idea to take a 100 into the rocks, can it handle it?
I will drive it to work and use it on the trails. Can a 100 keep up with an 80?

 

[Gumby]

I am going to use it as a replacement to my old 80.
Its going to be a rock smasher.
Is it a good idea to take a 100 into the rocks, can it handle it?
I will drive it to work and use it on the trails. Can a 100 keep up with an 80?

Depends on which forum you ask the question in.

 

[landtoy80]

Well...
My stock locked 80 did better than some unlocked and lifted 40 on rocks.
Lockers beat lift.

Even if I found one with rear locker, I would have to add a front locker.

 

[spressomon]

I am going to use it as a replacement to my old 80.
Its going to be a rock smasher.
Is it a good idea to take a 100 into the rocks, can it handle it?
I will drive it to work and use it on the trails. Can a 100 keep up with an 80?

To help answer your question you'll need to expound on "rock smasher"


The IFS being the limiting factor to how high (about 3" max) you can lift will ultimately effect how large of a rock pile you can reasonably expect to get up/through (or not ). Plus the front/rear overhang...assuming you install readily available aftermarket bumpers.

The 100's forte is more slanted toward expedition style runs where you have to travel across 4x4 roads with washboard, rocks, camping, etc...if you are dead set on getting a 100 then I would suggest, and you are really rock crawling, to get/build a 40 and pull it to your event with the 100...and then use the 100 for it's intended purposes the rest of the time.

 

[rusty_tlc]

To help answer your question you'll need to expound on "rock smasher"


The IFS being the limiting factor to how high (about 3" max) you can lift will ultimately effect how large of a rock pile you can reasonably expect to get up/through (or not ). Plus the front/rear overhang...assuming you install readily available aftermarket bumpers.

The 100's forte is more slanted toward expedition style runs where you have to travel across 4x4 roads with washboard, rocks, camping, etc...if you are dead set on getting a 100 then I would suggest, and you are really rock crawling, to get/build a 40 and pull it to your event with the 100...and then use the 100 for it's intended purposes the rest of the time.

Would you really tow a 40 with a 100?

As big as they are they still seem kind of light to tow 4000+ pounds. I'm sure it could be done, but it seems kind of sketchy to me.

 

[spressomon]

Would you really tow a 40 with a 100?

As big as they are they still seem kind of light to tow 4000+ pounds. I'm sure it could be done, but it seems kind of sketchy to me.

True...not ideal...but the rig to do it best is probably a Duramax (or equiv Fjord or Dudge)...but at the end of the day you still just have a specialty tow truck. And of course it depends how often, how far and what type of terrain you would tow. Anyway you look at it it's a comprimise either way. Maybe the higher HP 200 Series next year?


I'm sure a 6" lifted 80 could have made it through Bronco Canyon that day...but you and Shawn's 40's seemed so at home with those type of terrain features that it would be hard, for me, to imagine an 80 much less a 100 trying to scrape through that section: That's what I think of when someone mentions they want a rig for "rock smashing" (https://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=117124).

 

[landtoy80]

...and then use the 100 for it's intended purposes the rest of the time.

What is the intended purpose for a 100?
Not knowing much about them, can you wheel a 100?

I don't want to have a 40. I want a all around endro. I want the best of both worlds.
Power, comfort, 4 drs, cargo area, hwy speed+, and able to get through most trails in CO and UT.
Is a 100 an endro or do I have to get a 80 to do that?

 

[spressomon]

What is the intended purpose for a 100?
Not knowing much about them, can you wheel a 100?

I don't want to have a 40. I want a all around endro. I want the best of both worlds.
Power, comfort, 4 drs, cargo area, hwy speed+, and able to get through most trails in CO and UT.
Is a 100 an endro or do I have to get a 80 to do that?

Intended purpose is subjective; although "rock smasher" brings to mind terrain the 100 was not designed for nor could be modded to handle satisfactorily. One of the limiting factors with the IFS100 is the fact that a little less than 3" is your max lift range plus limited front axle(s) travel. While I am perfectly happy with my modded 100...the subjectivity of your "rock smasher" term makes me think the 100 is probably not the rig for you. The 80 with a 6" lift and 37's might be a better suited compromise for you.

We're all waiting to see/hear the outcome of Christo's SAS conversion project on their 100.

 

[hoser]

Landtoy80, take a look at the Frappr map and contact some 100 owners in your area. Perhaps they can take you out on those exact trails you'd want to run with a 100.

 

[ShottsUZJ100]

Here's images of a 100 on a rock-crawl trail:
http://shottscruisers.smugmug.com/gallery/2149437

This trail has very large rocks 2-5 feet. Many ledges 1-4 feet. Sometimes all wheels are climbing different heights. It's not the hardest thing I've done in the 100 though the trail was tight and I was tired of concentrating 5-hours later.

People who don't do this in their 100 (or 80 owners whom haven't seen) think the 100 isn't built for it. I think they are wrong.

To be honest, I PREFER the IFS 100 on a trail like this. I have LOADS more front diff clearance that I don't even have to worry about things. I simply point the truck so the rear diff clears. SERIOUSLY!

Again though....as I said in the othet thread....this trail is getting toward that "95%" mark. If you do A LOT of this stuff and harder then an 80 might be preferred. If you do this occassionally then you'll prefer the 100 far and away.