Storage space instead of the useless 3rd row

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A picture is worth a thousand words. So, for starters:

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Interested? Then read the wall of text below.

The project was inspired by this gentleman: GX460 3rd Row "In-floor" Storage Solution - https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/gx460-3rd-row-in-floor-storage-solution.1357428/
It has taken a few years to come up with the design and get brave enough to start modifying the car.

I keep air pump, recovery gear, jump start cables, emergency watter supply and stuff like that in there.
Things I don't need daily but do want to always carry.
Traction boards also fit nicely in the large compartment.

Is it overbuilt?
Most likely. But I like rigid shiny things, so steel unistruts is the way.
Also unistruts have slots so it's easier to add any mods later or bolt on storage bins.

The third row was removed(btw, let me know if you want it for very cheap. North California, local pick up only), the floor was insulated with killmat and some sound deadening foam with a carpet on top of it.

CAD model​


I use OnShape because it's free and good enough for what I do. You can copy the document to your workspace and use it.

I'm not doing it professionally, it's a hobby. So my CAD skills are... improving daily.
I highly recommend to use the CAD model for inspiration only.
Initially the trunk was 3d-scanned(KIRI engine) and everything was designed around the 3d scan.
There were minor things modified in place that never got back to the CAD model. Cut-to-fit adjustments mostly.
In general the model is relevant though.

Model:

Trunk scan:

Key design considerations​


- Unistruts are used as a backbone to hold everything together.

- OEM look as much as possible.
Use the stock trunk 'lip' and the metal structure supporting it. The metal needs to be cut slightly.

- It's all in metric. Yes, SAE hardware is easier to obtain here in the US, I know.
Howerver, Toyota is using metric. Also I was born and raised in the country using metric and just can't wrap my head around inch fractions.
Sorry.

- Use off the shelf parts if possible. Non load-bearing parts like back fence are 3D printed.

- I don't own a mill, so no machined parts or tight tolerances in the design. No fancy tools required.
Everything was cut with hand tools mostly. Hand tools and a table mounted bandsaw.

- Some space inside the stock 'back lip' is wasted. I didn't find a good way to make it usable and accessible.

- Hinges are welded to the angle brackets, but it's not necessary. You can bolt them on as well. It was just faster to weld it.

Fasteners

M10 25,30 mm x 1.5, + nuts.

Strut nuts (aka nylon stunt channel nuts)

M10 30mm, x1.25(!!!) bolts.
Toyota is using(surprise!) Japanese Indistrual Standard thread pitch.
Used to bolt down back cross bar. Only 4 bolts are needed.

M10 rivert nuts. I've tested a few, hex steel rivnuts are the best.
Front cross bar is bolted down using rivnuts.
Don't torque it over 30 ft*lb or about 0.2 oomph.

Struts

Unistruts. I bought 2x 10ft 12 gauge and it was enough.
L shaped unistrut brackets, 4 holes
L shaped unistrut brackets, 2 holes
Square washers, ~ 28x28x3 mm


Other

15mm baltic birch plywood
Sofa hinges 6x
Marine grade carpet for boats
KILMAT 80mil butyl mats, Noico red 150mil foam. For sound insulation.
ABS-GF plastic
Sweat, curses, and PPE. Use safety glasses at least.

Some build-in-progress pictures​


Sound deadening + carpet

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It didn't let me post more than 5 pictures, I'll continue below.

Unistruts installed

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Checking back lip fit.
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Installing 3d printed back fence. Glass fiber ABS. Awesome filament.

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Fitting plywood
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A picture is worth a thousand words. So, for starters:

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Interested? Then read the wall of text below.

The project was inspired by this gentleman: GX460 3rd Row "In-floor" Storage Solution - https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/gx460-3rd-row-in-floor-storage-solution.1357428/
It has taken a few years to come up with the design and get brave enough to start modifying the car.

I keep air pump, recovery gear, jump start cables, emergency watter supply and stuff like that in there.
Things I don't need daily but do want to always carry.
Traction boards also fit nicely in the large compartment.

Is it overbuilt?
Most likely. But I like rigid shiny things, so steel unistruts is the way.
Also unistruts have slots so it's easier to add any mods later or bolt on storage bins.

The third row was removed(btw, let me know if you want it for very cheap. North California, local pick up only), the floor was insulated with killmat and some sound deadening foam with a carpet on top of it.

CAD model​


I use OnShape because it's free and good enough for what I do. You can copy the document to your workspace and use it.

I'm not doing it professionally, it's a hobby. So my CAD skills are... improving daily.
I highly recommend to use the CAD model for inspiration only.
Initially the trunk was 3d-scanned(KIRI engine) and everything was designed around the 3d scan.
There were minor things modified in place that never got back to the CAD model. Cut-to-fit adjustments mostly.
In general the model is relevant though.

Model:

Trunk scan:

Key design considerations​


- Unistruts are used as a backbone to hold everything together.

- OEM look as much as possible.
Use the stock trunk 'lip' and the metal structure supporting it. The metal needs to be cut slightly.

- It's all in metric. Yes, SAE hardware is easier to obtain here in the US, I know.
Howerver, Toyota is using metric. Also I was born and raised in the country using metric and just can't wrap my head around inch fractions.
Sorry.

- Use off the shelf parts if possible. Non load-bearing parts like back fence are 3D printed.

- I don't own a mill, so no machined parts or tight tolerances in the design. No fancy tools required.
Everything was cut with hand tools mostly. Hand tools and a table mounted bandsaw.

- Some space inside the stock 'back lip' is wasted. I didn't find a good way to make it usable and accessible.

- Hinges are welded to the angle brackets, but it's not necessary. You can bolt them on as well. It was just faster to weld it.

Fasteners

M10 25,30 mm x 1.5, + nuts.

Strut nuts (aka nylon stunt channel nuts)

M10 30mm, x1.25(!!!) bolts.
Toyota is using(surprise!) Japanese Indistrual Standard thread pitch.
Used to bolt down back cross bar. Only 4 bolts are needed.

M10 rivert nuts. I've tested a few, hex steel rivnuts are the best.
Front cross bar is bolted down using rivnuts.
Don't torque it over 30 ft*lb or about 0.2 oomph.

Struts

Unistruts. I bought 2x 10ft 12 gauge and it was enough.
L shaped unistrut brackets, 4 holes
L shaped unistrut brackets, 2 holes
Square washers, ~ 28x28x3 mm


Other

15mm baltic birch plywood
Sofa hinges 6x
Marine grade carpet for boats
KILMAT 80mil butyl mats, Noico red 150mil foam. For sound insulation.
ABS-GF plastic
Sweat, curses, and PPE. Use safety glasses at least.

Some build-in-progress pictures​


Sound deadening + carpet

View attachment 4069927
Well done. I love it. And kudos for using metric hardware. I feel the same way about matching hardware units with Toyota, even down to using JIS hardware on M8 or larger to keep the wrench sizes same as stock.
 
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Nice work! Do you by chance have the measurements where the bolt holes are in the floor for the 3rd row? I'll be building a sleeping platform drawer system soon. 😁

Also, what is that vent for on the passenger wheel well trim?
 
Nice work! Do you by chance have the measurements where the bolt holes are in the floor for the 3rd row? I'll be building a sleeping platform drawer system soon. 😁

Also, what is that vent for on the passenger wheel well trim?
It's all in the attached cad model. There is also a raw 3d scan. see the links above.

The vent is second and third row hvac.
 
Well done. I love it. And kudos for using metric hardware. I feel the same way about matching hardware units with Toyota, even down to using JIS hardware on M8 or larger to keep the wrench sizes same as stock.
How deep are your cubbies? Deep enough for a second battery?
 
It's all in the attached cad model. There is also a raw 3d scan. see the links above.

The vent is second and third row hvac.
Any free CAD programs? I do not have experience with using CAD.

That's odd, my rear HVAC doesn't have the vent in that part of the panel 😂
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How deep are your cubbies? Deep enough for a second battery?
Depends on your battery, I guess.

There is a slope. The largest compartment is ~16cm (~7”).
You can adjust depth for your needs. Just add/remove a few washers or use different holes in the angle brackets connecting unistruts together. Here is a screenshot from the cad model. Onshape is free and works in browser, check it.

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Any free CAD programs? I do not have experience with using CAD.

That's odd, my rear HVAC doesn't have the vent in that part of the panel 😂
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This one is free for non-commercial stuff, they just want your email and that's it.

As for the hvac hole, I have no idea :)
I guess toyota has improved something over the years. This is a 2023 gx.
 
Any free CAD programs? I do not have experience with using CAD.
There are several CAD programs that are free online. You may want to try which one best works for you.
I've been using CAD since 1980 and have learned about a half dozen different CAD programs in my career, the primary ones being ACAD (AutoCAD) and SolidWorks which I have my own (purchased) license.
Once you learn one CAD program, most all CAD programs have the same tools, e.g.: window in/out, line, polyline, arc's, circles, delete, etc. but what makes them different will be the names of the commands and menu layout.
Perhaps looking a a CAD program that has the MOST support, such as learning videos.
Hope this helps!
 
As long as a noob can get in, load the file, and get the measurements I'll be good. Lol. Otherwise I'll just continue my redneck science solutions for my build. 🤣
 
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Damn, amazingly clean work. I just finished a much more rudimentary version of this myself with baltic birch. Getting the angle right for the forward 3rd row seat mounts was a PITA. Being able to skip them with rivnuts as you did would have been nice but I wanted the strength for my drawer system.
 
Damn, amazingly clean work. I just finished a much more rudimentary version of this myself with baltic birch. Getting the angle right for the forward 3rd row seat mounts was a PITA. Being able to skip them with rivnuts as you did would have been nice but I wanted the strength for my drawer system.
Thanks!

Initially I wanted to use the stock mounts but went rivnuts because of the exact same reasons.

Stock mounts are just nuts welded to a pretty thin sheet metal piece. So the weak link here is the sheet metal. I did 4 rivet nuts and it feels rock solid. It's mostly shear load anyway. So, whoever will try to replicate this: if rivet nuts are a concern, just make 6 or 8 of them. Although I bet even with 4, the base metal will give up way before rivet nuts.

I did a few destructive tests on a similar thickness piece of metal. At around 55 ft*lb the sheet has started bending, but the rivnuts and bolts were ok.
The most important thing with rivnuts is the hole diameter. You really have to drill a precise hole, up to 0.1 mm. So if rivnut manual calls for 14.7mm, drill exactly 14.7. A good drill bit is like $10 on amazon.
If the hole is too big, rivnut will start turning.
 
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