Soon to be w/ 2000 LC

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Like many others, I’ve lurked in the darkness, reading much of my time here but it has made me obsessed with wanting a LC. So I posted my 2006 Ford FX4 truck on craigslist and sold it in one day. The guy is picking it up Wednesday. I started looking for LC and found a 2000 at a dealer for $12,900, needs new tires soon and the exterior/interior are in great shape. I told them to leave the new tires off (so that I can put what I want on), offered $11,000 and they came back at $11,500. It has 116,000 miles on it. The dealer didn’t know if the timing belt was changed or not. Is there any way I would know by looking? What do you think of the deal? Any suggestions would be great!

I was wondering for those of you that have kids still in car seats, does having a 2001 or newer with the latch a concern for you?
 
Timing belt or not, if it is in great shape, I'd be ALL OVER IT for $11,500. 116k on a Cruiser is nothing...

I paid $21k for an 02 w/ 55k miles (at the time) and I was happy enough with that deal.

Pounce on that thing!
 
well, good for you!

now, generally, if the timing belt is done by a Toy or Lexus dealer, they will/should put a sticker under the hood somewhere. Of course, they may not. An independent would likely not do that either. Plus having the sticker does not necessarily mean it's actually been done, although likely... How's that for certainties..? :)

So basically, you may have to depend on copy of bills, original parts in the trunk, indication of work on the engine (bolts, gaskets etc), your trust of the seller etc. If it's an LX it may be in the Lexus system which may be easy to look up. Probably not for a regular Toyota. Given the high price of the job, a private party would likely have the records, but a dealer perhaps having bought it at auction, well.... You could have the dealer give a bunch of phone calls and try to find out.

Sadly, it may not be a fruitful search, and if so you should -for value purposes- conservatively assume it's not been done. The bummer is that you have then then to figure out whether you should do it yourself (perhaps all over again unnecessarily, but OTOH if you don't do it, it may -highly unlikely of course but possible- explode in the near future, who knows...). I don't recall if there was ever a first hand account here of a timing belt failing but it's certainly not a common problem. The downside is that not doing it is a major gamble as you could conceivably ruin your engine in a major way.

If you want to use the timing belt as an argument to lower the cost, try and go have a look under the hood yourself before discussing this more and having a sticker magically appear...

The price for the job varies surprisingly widely depending on who does it, but IIRC is usually somewhere between $1000 and $2000 at a Toy dealer with the desirable side jobs, so not trivial for a $12K vehicle.

Perhaps somebody here having done it himself may think of a clever way to ascertain this somewhat more definitively (non-OEM color goop or gasket or something?).

Basically, it sucks not to know for sure.

Of course, if the price is really very good (seems good but IDK for sure) or already reflect that uncertainty, well, then all is well at least $$ wise.
 
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It is a Land Cruiser, the engine compartment was very clean and it was not detailed yet. I'm assuming that it needs the timing belt. I going to try to contact the PO and find out more details if I can. The PO traded this one in on a 2008 LC and it was very well taken care of.
 
I was wondering for those of you that have kids still in car seats, does having a 2001 or newer with the latch a concern for you?

Nope. I have 3 seats across the middle row, no LATCH. Come on - it's a Cruiser. Things are damn tanks. For your service, if the PO traded in at the same dealership or you can find where they had it serviced, you can get the service records and see if it's been done. I know on mine the $1,500 bill for the service was a factor in them trading it in. Worked out fine for me. Unfortunately, the timing belt isn't one of those things that you can visually tell if it's been replaced or not. Better safe than sorry.
 
Hmmm, so if I have $800 in tires and $2000 in the major tune with timing belt and water pump and new plugs, you would end up spending, $14,300 - That is a good deal, I would like $15K for mine.

Congrats on the soon to be purchased. You will love it.
With that many miles, the front rotors and starter are the other items that will be pricey and you should check to see if they have been done as they will need it.
 
It is a Land Cruiser, the engine compartment was very clean and it was not detailed yet. I'm assuming that it needs the timing belt. I going to try to contact the PO and find out more details if I can. The PO traded this one in on a 2008 LC and it was very well taken care of.

sure, if you can get ahold of the PO, that'd be good. Do ask for a copy of the paperwork, though, if any.
 
The carfax shows it serviced at a local dealership at 88k and 110k. I was going to contact them and see what and if I could get a copy of the service records. The salesman was a complete idiot though.
 
The carfax shows it serviced at a local dealership at 88k and 110k. I was going to contact them and see what and if I could get a copy of the service records. The salesman was a complete idiot though.

oooh, 88K sounds promising...
don't tell your seller if it proves to have been done already... :)

ah, so this Carfax thing can be useful sometimes, then... wonder how they got ahold of that info...?
 
things on record at a dealer apparently can be gotten ahold of quite easy. Some random extended warranty company has my cell phone number(its the contact number in the lexus system for both our LS430 and LX470) and they keep calling trying to sell me an extended warranty for the LS.
 
It looks like everyone else has your back on getting this worked out to be a good deal for you. As for the latch system… don’t sweat it. I don’t use mine for a few reasons; it interferes with the 3rd row passengers (one more thing for kids to mess with/trip over), requires the removal of my rear mat, and lastly I’ve seen first hand how well Cruisers take a hit. Now if you bring up the 5 speed tranny, the updated interior, or side curtain air bags of the 03 and newer that’s different. Seriously though the 2000 is a great truck, you’ll love it.

Oh... and welcome out of the shadows of mud :clap:
 
things on record at a dealer apparently can be gotten ahold of quite easy. Some random extended warranty company has my cell phone number(its the contact number in the lexus system for both our LS430 and LX470) and they keep calling trying to sell me an extended warranty for the LS.

that probably means the bastids are selling our personal info... :mad:

and people wonder why I don't give mine out easily or publish it on the web... :rolleyes:
 
I am down to one carseat, and two boosters. I do not worry about the LATCH because it was meant more for ease of install, rather than being safer (i.e its meant to be safer, because more people would be installing correctly). You can still tether it down, using hold-downs in the cargo area.
 
I just contacted the dealer listed on the carfax and all they did was detail the car for the PO. So it looks like I will be replacing the timing belt and all the fluids to be safe. I believe everyone uses synthetic? It sucks not having any service records!
 
I just contacted the dealer listed on the carfax and all they did was detail the car for the PO. So it looks like I will be replacing the timing belt and all the fluids to be safe. I believe everyone uses synthetic? It sucks not having any service records!

try and get contact info for the PO. If they refuse to give it to you, leave them your number and ask them nicely to contact the PO themselves to see if he would contact you directly. (Promise some super Donuts to the Service Manager or say you'll have them do some service if they help you (Not the timing belt! :D) :) )
 
Or, clean the car when you get it. I found a car wash receipt with the PO's name under the seats, quick white pages search and I found them. Guy was pretty apprehensive at first, I told him I wasn't calling him to blame him for something, just wanted some history, complimented him on owning a Cruiser. As soon as I did that, he spilled it all.
 
I'd also be concerned about if the tranny is one of the 2000 models that was faulty.
But at 116k, that prolly would have appeared by now. Just make sure it shifts smoothly on the test drive.
Hopefully it's not that Smokey Topaz color, they all will have major paint problems requiring a repaint eventually. If it looks good now, then it hasn't seen the sun much or the repaint has already been done.
Is it a southern LC, that would be nice.
 
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On the test drive, it shifted real smooth and it's a silver color. The LC spent 3 years in Texas and the rest here in Missouri. I spoke with a friend at the dealership and the PO said he would have kept it if he hadn't got such a good deal on the 200.

I also just got the PO's info, hopefully the number listed is still good. I plan on calling tonight.
 
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