Got to mc’ ds bout 9.00 some of the fellas were there eating, sat down and a very cold looking dude asked if we could help him out. .He said he had been stuck in the snow since 8.30 the night before brrrrrrrrrr. I did not go so john might fill you in on what happened. Got to trail head round 10:00 ? with 3 40s, 1 80, 1 runner, 1 80 and one totally cool 55 it was snowing a little aired down, off we went. Part way up a one of the 40s over heats, its his fan fuse. Get to the top its freezing, snowing blowing any way I got stuck on the first little hill kept sliding in to a small ditch scratched my fender had to get pulled up. The 55 was not moving just spinning her wheels, tired my chains to small grrrrr. The hill was not very steep at all she would not move, aired down to 10psi and pulled 10 feet to top of hill now it goes just fine down hill! Did I mention I’ve never driven in snow before. By now its snowing hard trail looks steep so down I go slipping, sliding yikes the 80 was sliding around. At the top 4 runner doing good they both turned back crap I’m down a freaking ski slop just one way to go, oh boy lots of hills the 55s slipping all over well there this big bowl if you slide in its 20 feet to the bottom and big tree or bush I would be dead for sure. made it. Dave west on the cb sayng “ your brakes are your enemy “slow down “the trail is heavly rutted at first steratled some and fell in some lots of fun this trail is beautiful 55 did grate no problem. Went to lunch at BK in arrowhead.I was going to head down they were going back up the trail. Went to blue jay then to 18 it snowing very hard very foggy half down road closed back up the hill ended up in a hotel with a fire place way cool came back down back side 18 thru big bear sweet trip