sandblast vs stripping

[divy]

Trying to decide whether to sandblast or use aircraft stripper before painting my 40. Have a couple of rusty areas in wheel wells and rear quarters but could work those by hand. I would like to make this as quick as possible as I only have a few days off of work and then life gets busy. If I get a sandblaster how big of a compressor must I have to run it and what type of media do you experts recommend (I have only done a minimum amount of bodywork and have never sandblasted. Have used the stripper before with decent results.
Thanks for the info.

 

[D'Animal]

Welcome to MUD!

Check into having it commercially Soda Blasted. It is not near as harsh on the metal as sand. You basically have too try to warp a panel.

Chemically stripping can take awhile and is very messy.

 

[divy]

thanks. I forgot to mention I am on a pretty tight budget at the present. How much would the soda blasting go for approximately>

 

[D'Animal]

Depends on where you are in the country.

I can have a frame sandblasted for $50.00 here in central california. They will use course sand and floor sweepings. It will be down to bare metal though.

Soda blasting a carbody will be more and it may depend on how many layers of paint are on it.

 

[Bubblee]

Wait a minute... I thought soda blasting was a no-no, something to do with adhesion of paint afterwards. HotRodders.com had an article about it but I can't find it now.

 

[D'Animal]

Wait a minute... I thought soda blasting was a no-no, something to do with adhesion of paint afterwards. HotRodders.com had an article about it but I can't find it now.

I wonder if Chip Foose read that article.

 

[CruiserMax]

I don't know about a whole cruiser but I just stripped a FJ40 hood with the Eastwood auto paint remover and it went surprisingly well.

 

[4x4 Station Wagon]

I just had a frame blasted cost 150.00 and i then had my tub, trans cover, and radiator support blasted cost 300.00 they did well however just a heads up if you dont have a gun expect 150.00 for an ok one and 150.00 for a gallon of sealer with two part, and a few bucks for degreaser, and if you are going to get started on it you may want to spray sandable primer before the epoxy cures......... It will get expensive. That i am sure you realize but what i didnt realize was how well they do getting into those tight little areas that you CAN NOT get a spray gun into (under dash, edge of inner tub wheel wells, etc.) Surely there is an easy way but i didnt know it!! That is the only thing that might make stripping it better??????? (ONLY MY OPINION I AM AN IDIOT YOU SHOULD LISTEN TO THE OTHERS!!) If you want to see pics take a look in the FJ40 section and use the search function to search CHIEF I have a few in the chief s***ty pants build. As you can see I AM AN IDIOT and have made plenty of mistakes

Good luck!!

 

[Bubblee]

I wonder if Chip Foose read that article.

I'll see your sarcasm and raise you this...

You don't even realize how excited I'm about this. This exchange is just a perfect example of "It must be true because I saw it on MTv"

Prepare yourself... boooooyaaaa... Sodablasting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia <-- and thats just a tip of the mountain, if you care enough I will give away my secret link that can offer you, or any other interested soul, more information its Google (keep it a secret though)

I do recognize the phenomenon that its quite cool, and common to spread (mis)information on the internet, passing yourself as an expert... after all its someone else that will pay the price right?... but can we leave that to the teens on their rice rocket forums?

Take Care

P.S. CHip Foose reference was just pure gold though

 

[D'Animal]

So what am I missing here?

This is from your link.


"Sodablasting is a process where sodium bicarbonate is applied against a surface using compressed air. It was first used to restore the Statue of Liberty.

Sodablasting is a non-destructive method for many applications in cleaning, paint stripping, automotive restoration, industrial equipment maintenance, rust removal, graffiti removal, molecular steel passivication against rust, oil removal by saponification and translocation, masonry cleaning and restoration, soot remediation, boat hull cleaning, food processing facilities and equipment."

 

[D'Animal]

So is this.


"At least one paint manufacturer recommends against using their automotive epoxy primer over soda blasted substrates.[2] Care should be taken to follow the coating manufacturer's technical recommendations when applying refinish materials over soda blasted surfaces."

I'm having a hard time reading between the lines of your post.

 

[D'Animal]

This exchange is just a perfect example of "It must be true because I saw it on MTv"

P.S. CHip Foose reference was just pure gold though

So here is a link where Chip Endorses Sodablasting.


http://www.sodablasting.com/what_is_soda_blasting.html


Google "Chip Foose Sodablasting". It should be the first thing to pop up.

 

[D'Animal]

I'll see your sarcasm and raise you this...

You don't even realize how excited I'm about this. This exchange is just a perfect example of "It must be true because I saw it on MTv"

I do recognize the phenomenon that its quite cool, and common to spread (mis)information on the internet, passing yourself as an expert... after all its someone else that will pay the price right?... but can we leave that to the teens on their rice rocket forums?

Take Care

Find one post I have made claiming to be an expert on anything.

I have made my mistakes and am man enough to admit them and share them with others so they do not make the same mistakes.


Now answer Divy's question.

1. "DIY Home Sanblaster Kit and do it himself?" He does not have any tools, no blaster kit, no air compressor, etc. I assume he has no experience. I'm sure you have seen warped body panels.

2. "Chemically removing it." Good chemicals are very harsh and do not remove rust. They are also difficult to get rid of properly when you are done with them.

3. "His time is limited to complete the project."

These three items are in his first post which is why I made the recomendation I did. I have the tools and have messed up enough stuff that I only use them on bumpers and farm equipment. That is why I hire it done.

 

[My wife said no FJ!]

Just curious...I'll be getting my tub and frame blasted...but what about regular paint stripper you can buy at Home Depot?

 

[D'Animal]

Just curious...I'll be getting my tub and frame blasted...but what about regular paint stripper you can buy at Home Depot?

DADD'S is a great stripper. They sell it Wal Mart. It is in a blue and white can that looks like a Coleman fuel can. It used to be around $20.00 a gallon. Wear gloves, wear goggles, wear a long sleeve shirt and pants, not polyester. Use in a well ventilated area.

I have used it several times and have gone through 5 layers of crappy paint at one time.

 

[cruiser88]

Ok soda blasting is fine if there is very little rust.Any real rust you are wasting your time cause it is not coarse enough.

Never heard of it being a no no like is being discussed.

Don't care which way you go ...there will be a mess. minimal doing it by hand.

Got to give soda blasting credit...done correctly it can provide a nice feather edging.

 

[Michael Hanson]

Take it and have it partially sand blasted in the bad spots ,cheaper,quicker,envir. friendly.

 

[Bubblee]

Find one post I have made claiming to be an expert on anything.

Was that necessary? I do understand why you did that though

 

[My wife said no FJ!]

DADD'S is a great stripper. They sell it Wal Mart. It is in a blue and white can that looks like a Coleman fuel can. It used to be around $20.00 a gallon. Wear gloves, wear goggles, wear a long sleeve shirt and pants, not polyester. Use in a well ventilated area.

I have used it several times and have gone through 5 layers of ****py paint at one time.

That sounds like a great option. I used that stronger aviation stuff, and while cleaning up got a small drop on my fingure...just cool the way it made a hole 1/8 deep...luckily I had a bucket of cold water near by!!!

 

[D'Animal]

?I do understand why you did that though

Thanks for understanding.