Roll over risk - need cage?

[gil12]

I've been trying to find any info about the possiblity of the roof collapsing should my truck roll over. While I don't plan on this happening - I'd like to get some idea if it is a serious worry or not. Any info out there? (On some videos I've found it seems to stay up.)

Thanks,
Gil

 

[CrusrDug]

As you probably know, it is a tough rig comparitively speaking.

What are you comparing it too? or Are you just planning ahead?

 

[gil12]

No comparison - just wondering if s*** happens if I should prepare to DUCK!

 

[CrusrDug]

This might help you decide

YouTube - Cruiser Rollover

 

[gil12]

This might help you decide

YouTube - Cruiser Rollover

That doesn't look like a 100 though.

 

[CrusrDug]

true dat- the 100 is better

 

[gil12]

This is exactly how to NOT drive and exactly how to NOT be a passenger. Does this look like a 100?

YouTube - Land Cruiser Flips In Sealine - ???? ?? ?????

 

[macneill]

I don't think you'll encounter too much rollover potential at the Pacific View Mall.

 

[TXLX470]

Only if he goes over the speed bumps in high speed !!!! )))

 

[grimmcruiser]

This is exactly how to NOT drive and exactly how to NOT be a passenger. Does this look like a 100?

YouTube - Land Cruiser Flips In Sealine - ???? ?? ?????

DANG!!!

 

[1loudLX]

Only if he goes over the speed bumps in high speed !!!! )))

the faster you go the less you feel them

 

[rusty_tlc]

This might help you decide

YouTube - Cruiser Rollover

Thats Jasons old rig, it's an 80. He was doing brodys on th elake shore and hit mud hole IIRC.

This is exactly how to NOT drive and exactly how to NOT be a passenger. Does this look like a 100?

YouTube - Land Cruiser Flips In Sealine - ???? ?? ?????

That'll buff right out.


Both of those videos have something in common. They were driver error induced, and completely avoidable. Also at fairly low speed compared to hitting the median or Jersey wall at +70 MPH.

 

[ginericLC]

YouTube - Bad Accident In Dubai Dunes - ???? ?? ????

Seatbelts would probably help these guys!

Really most 80s and 100s I see in the boneyards have been rolled. Usually highway speed rolls which is much different than a trail roll. Most of them survive fairly well.

Engineering a cage in a 100 would be a lot of work considering you'd need to plan around air bags. And the late models with curtains would be even tougher. I wouldn't want to sacrifice those safety devices on the highway for a cage that would help on the trail.

 

[CrusrDug]

FWIW- Blueberry by Slee Offroad has a cage

https://forum.ih8mud.com/100-series...f-road-1998-uzj105-solid-axle-100-series.html

 

[Isotel]

Let me Preface these photos, with Please Call us if you want a Roll Cage

 

[ginericLC]

A cage may or may not have made a difference in the above photo. It depends upon what caused the impacts. This photo is obviously not a simple roll as there are several impacts from different directions. And that is an 80, not that I believe a 100 to be that much better in roof strength. I'm not saying a cage isn't a good idea, I'm just saying that the above photos aren't necessarily a good example of how a cage could help you.

Crash-test report backs stronger roofs on SUVs - USATODAY.com

This was an interesting article no LCs though.

 

[gil12]

I'm just saying that the above photos aren't necessarily a good example of how a cage could help you.

Crash-test report backs stronger roofs on SUVs - USATODAY.com

This was an interesting article no LCs though.[/quote]

I agree. It does beg the question - how would the 100s do. I think it is much more an issue for street driving as the speeds are higher. (While driving at the Pacific View Mall CAN be challenging - it is getting there and back that is the risk.) I am a slow driver and I drive this slower than most - but it is silly to assume that S*** doesn't happen.

Is it a 100 in the awful video on the dunes? It looks like it may be.

 

[slimbuddha]

Let me Preface these photos, with Please Call us if you want a Roll Cage

I would have to say that appears to be a very high speed roll over, and it is very possible that those in there are still alive, as it is just above the headrests.

Is it a 100 in the awful video on the dunes? It looks like it may be.

It looked like a 100, but seriously, hanging out of the sunroof while the vehicle is moving at any speed is absolutely STUPID, much less while you are messing around at high speeds on sand.

Personally, I feel like a roll cage would be overkill for anything other than high-speed off-road racing (i.e baja). Other than that, I feel the LC will hold up to most roll overs, other than possibly rolling like 15 times at 80 mph and even then, who knows if the roll bar would hold up as well.

Then again, i'm living life on the edge without ATRAC/VSC.

 

[ginericLC]

The other thing is cages need to be engineered. Most of the cages you see in 40s are designed for slow speed rolls, they may not be the best for higher speed rolls. A cage does not always mean you are safer. It is really hard to predict when it would be beneficial. It is always easy to say, "Should have had one, look what happened!" But there could be examples where a cage especially an ill engineered one would harm the occupants. With that said, to properly engineer one would be very difficult in a 100 if all of the airbags are retained and kept operable. And if you have side curtains I'm not sure it could even reasonably be done. Christo's Blueberry is a non-typical 100. I definitely think putting that cage in was a smart thing to do for his application of that vehicle. Anyway, this is one of those topics that can be beat to death.

 

[Isotel]

I would Guess that the Truck in the above photos rolled on the Highway.

all it takes is one wrong move by you or someone else and your truck could look just like the one above.. I would think that the 100 series may hold up a little bit better than an 80, but not much..

your right this topic can be argued either way, but i would rather have a cage than not! Proper Seat Belts and Roll Bar Padding is just as important!