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Hi
i feel you..
My suggestion:
- Take the fuel lines, sedimenter and tank out of the equation and feed the IP from a canister.
- Bleed / prime filter. See below how I do it.
- With priming pump hard: Let it sit and check periodically again. Should still be reasonably hard after a few hours / over night.
If not: There is a leak somwhere between IP and Injectors.

My first suspect in that case would be the filter. Could also be a fine crack in the housing or something. Next step then would be eliminating the filter (temporarly put a simple transparent in-line fuel filter)

Here is how I bleed:
- Put a transparent hose, filled with fuel, on the bleeder, leading into a container.
- Prime. Priming pump should get harder (probably not rock solid yet). You are moving fuel in, which compresses any present air.
- Stop pumping (ideally once you can't pump any more anyway). Open bleeder, observe. Pumped pressure releases now. Compressed air expands and moves out: Bubbles to be observed. Close bleeder.
- Repeat: As long as there is still air in somwhere, it can compress and allows pumping. Once no more air is in, the pump gets solid within 1-3 strikes. Then you are done.

Even with air in lines, the engine should at least sputter with white / gray smoke.
(Provided timing and compression are right and air is available and no fuel cutoff is -well cutting it off)
You may want to check on that.

Other than that, concerning the no-start, question is, whether the IP is actually pumping sufficiently. That would mean: Crack injector lines and turn it over significantly by starter (hughe mess), or remove it and have it tested (hughe effort).
But if mostly everything else (tank, sedimenter, most of fuel lines, filter, engine itself) is ruled out, basically only the IP itself remains as a suspect. Again: Even with bad injectors and leaking lines it should sputter...

Good Luck Ralf
 
Air can only get in before priming (feed/ booster) pump. After fuel get pressurized...
Often that an union between flexible hose and piping.
Good luck
 
Air can only get in before priming (feed/ booster) pump. After fuel get pressurized...
Often that an union between flexible hose and piping.
Good luck

… thanks Team 70-series for those suggestions. Let’s see where another couple of attempts gets with those. Muchas gracias…
 
… thanks Team 70-series for those suggestions. Let’s see where another couple of attempts gets with those. Muchas gracias…
Did you end up figuring this out? Currently replacing the fuel pickup in my tank after a crank no start and unable to prime. I’m curious what else to look for.
 
Hi @Triplefat ,

In my case on my LJ73 with 2L-T motor I had poor/no cold start with >5 minute cranking and voluminous white smoke every time it did start.

I initially checked and confirmed glow plugs [mine had been previously Wilson-ed] and fuel flow to injectors.

Working through the fuel/air/energy triad I replaced [in this order] :
  • Fuel filter
  • Fuel primer
  • Fuel filter sediment tap/sensor
  • Soft fuel lines in engine bay including to injector pump and return lines
  • Added in 18" clear lines before and after fuel primer/filter to confirm minimal air in lines
  • Another fuel filter with new o-rings
  • New o-rings for sediment and water tap
  • Remaining soft fuel lines under vehicle back to tank
  • Another fuel primer
  • Redid the clear lines to re-check
  • OEM injectors
  • Dropped tank, cleaned out
  • Fuel pickup
  • Fuel filler and associated hoses
  • Another fuel filter with new o-rings
  • Clear lines again to confirm no air in the lines post-filter
Result - no change.

Finally, on suggestion of another 2L-T owner to re-check glow plugs, et voila! Now, first time, every time even after a week at zero Celsius.

The 6V glows had been significantly fried by the direct 12V from the Wilson switch and were working sub-optimally. I replaced with 12V glows normally for a 2L-TE

Upside - daily rather than annual driver [Fun!]
Downside - third mortgage
 
Attach a piece of 6mm clear hose to the drain plug on top of fuel filter housing and put end in a container (1l) with a bit of fuel.
Free priming pump (turn knob anticlockwise) and actuate it until it becomes hard.
Is that a feature on certain models? I have a new fuel filter primer and the top pump button doesn’t seem to twist in either direction
 
Is that a feature on certain models? I have a new fuel filter primer and the top pump button doesn’t seem to twist in either direction
As per my knowledge, there are two variants of priming pump: on the fuel filter and on the IP. I have the one on the IP (1985 BJ73 3B). That one twists (mine however never locks in place).
Not exactly sure how the one on the fuel filter works.
In any case: it's a long way from the tank. When in a workshop, I suggest to use a large syringe style pump to suck up the fuel.
It takes long with the little priming pump, and they tend to develop leakage or suck air when worn out.
Good Luck Ralf
 
Anyone know where I can get new brackets for the gas tank straps? My bolts were already cross threaded and snapped coming out.
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