ok, so i'm gona do a SOA on the 60, at this time i am also thinking about puting a RWS on it with disc breaks. as i have only been around a couple of these rigs (mostly jeeps) i know little to some about them. i would like to know if anyone else has done this, how it went, how they did it, and what they used, etc, etc? i have already done a search but came up with little of what i was looking for. any info is greatly appreciated
Rear Wheel Steer Questions? for a 60 (1 Viewer)
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ive never seen a Wagon with Rear Stear, Or anyone running Toyota Rear Stear,
But with the Longfield Super Set, Cromo Drive plates (instead of hubs) and Front Range Off-Road Cromo Studs all around, you may be able to make it work..
most of the Rear Steer setups are using Dana 60's with Thousands of $$$ tied up in them..
But with the Longfield Super Set, Cromo Drive plates (instead of hubs) and Front Range Off-Road Cromo Studs all around, you may be able to make it work..
most of the Rear Steer setups are using Dana 60's with Thousands of $$$ tied up in them..
I've built a RWS setup for my buggy, not running yet so I can't speak on performance, but on buildup you need to consider many factors as mace eluded to:
On road performance a concern (yes or no)
Type of system (hydro, electric, etc)
Axle (strength and cost)
Frame & body (clearance concerns)
Suspension members (leaves, links, shocks)
Control system (standalone or off the steering wheel...override or not, electric or hydraulic)
Fluid delivery (Pump:engine drive or electric) lines, rams, etc.
Cost (RWS is big money)
I've researched quite a bit when sourcing my system, so if you have questions let me know.
On road performance a concern (yes or no)
Type of system (hydro, electric, etc)
Axle (strength and cost)
Frame & body (clearance concerns)
Suspension members (leaves, links, shocks)
Control system (standalone or off the steering wheel...override or not, electric or hydraulic)
Fluid delivery (Pump:engine drive or electric) lines, rams, etc.
Cost (RWS is big money)
I've researched quite a bit when sourcing my system, so if you have questions let me know.
Tapage
Club 4X4 Panamá
I'm very interested on this .. so I'm gonna ask ..
It's a 60 series axle, strong enough for RWS .. ? keep in mind cromo set, and maybe some hi steering arms .. etc etc etc ..
I'm pretty sure that the " steering " part is in fact so complcate, so maybe you can start with the axle ready to steer and keep it " fixed " until you have money to continue in the process.
It's a 60 series axle, strong enough for RWS .. ? keep in mind cromo set, and maybe some hi steering arms .. etc etc etc ..
I'm pretty sure that the " steering " part is in fact so complcate, so maybe you can start with the axle ready to steer and keep it " fixed " until you have money to continue in the process.
A front 60 axle is not strong enough for rear steer.
Unless you seriously baby it. And what fun would that be with rear steer??
Again, all this is mute if the guy has no intentions of removing the body..
Unless you seriously baby it. And what fun would that be with rear steer??
Again, all this is mute if the guy has no intentions of removing the body..
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thanks guys for all the help, wasn't planning on full buggy with this one, just a SOA with some fender trimming but if thats not high enough i'm glad i got stopped early.
i was planning on running a dana60 but wasn't sure of anything else, i do want it to be self-centering. yes i am somewhat worried about street use with this one. not sure on delivery was thinking full hydro that can be switched on or off.
guess i might have to make a call to a friend who has a rolled 60 in his backyard and make a buggy out of it since it still runs & drives, not sure the frames condition i guess i'll look into that
thanks everyone for the unending knowledge
i was planning on running a dana60 but wasn't sure of anything else, i do want it to be self-centering. yes i am somewhat worried about street use with this one. not sure on delivery was thinking full hydro that can be switched on or off.
guess i might have to make a call to a friend who has a rolled 60 in his backyard and make a buggy out of it since it still runs & drives, not sure the frames condition i guess i'll look into that
thanks everyone for the unending knowledge
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i had forgotten about the leafs getting in the way
guess it might have to have a 3 & 4 link set up but i'll have to think about what i'm getting myself into for a sec
guess it might have to have a 3 & 4 link set up but i'll have to think about what i'm getting myself into for a sec
More the body getting in the way than the leaves..
With a full body, you would need a LOT of lift to make rear steer functional. It is even complicated in a buggy..
And expensive..
With a full body, you would need a LOT of lift to make rear steer functional. It is even complicated in a buggy..
And expensive..
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does anyone have any good links to sites with info?
why does everyone say that it gets so expensive?
i have several friends that work at John Deere so most of the hydrolic parts wont be bad. 2 of these guys have had rear wheel steer before but don't remember much of the details. the hard part will be hooking it into a selectable pump and the steering. more time and thinking than money, I THINK. but i have been wrong many times before, what am i not thinking of or realizing?
thanks for the help
why does everyone say that it gets so expensive?
i have several friends that work at John Deere so most of the hydrolic parts wont be bad. 2 of these guys have had rear wheel steer before but don't remember much of the details. the hard part will be hooking it into a selectable pump and the steering. more time and thinking than money, I THINK. but i have been wrong many times before, what am i not thinking of or realizing?
thanks for the help
It can be done cheap if you use bottom of the barrell components and hobble it together.
If you want the steering to work properly, and be at least a bit safe on the road, then you need to pony up a reasonable amount of money for a self centering orbital, and a reasonable ram (typically double ended)
If you want the steering to work properly, and be at least a bit safe on the road, then you need to pony up a reasonable amount of money for a self centering orbital, and a reasonable ram (typically double ended)
Not to mention top of the line cromo shafts and the strongest knuckle and C components you can find so that steering rear axle holds together.
Exactly, even on D60 rear steer applications you have to use top of the line componenets to get it to hold up..bustanutley said:
rear steer costs a lot, it can be done cheap, but then you get to spend all your time fixing what breaks instead of wheelin
Tapage
Club 4X4 Panamá
Mace said:Exactly, even on D60 rear steer applications you have to use top of the line componenets to get it to hold up..
rear steer costs a lot, it can be done cheap, but then you get to spend all your time fixing what breaks instead of wheelin
I thought also is related with security on road .. if you plan make a machine that you can drive on road ..
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fine guys u talked me into it, i'll be a chicken and won't try; so 1 i can't learn from any mistakes and 2 can't help anyone else with ambition in the future
