Question C'dan

[Rookie2]

Well, I'm in the middle of trying to fix my pan arch leak and working on getting the No. 1 oil pan out. I've got it off, and am getting ready to work on raising the motor some. My question is, it looks like I might have to remove the tie rod. Did you have to do this, and if so is there a way to get it off without the SST?

Thanks,
Rookie2

 

[Rogue]

A two arm gear puller will work but watch out when it goes bang.

 

[Rookie2]

Help..., I'm kind of at a stopping point. I've got the pan loose, but I can't get it out. When I'm trying to jack the motor up, its lifting the front end up instead. C'dan if you're out there, I'd like to talk to you about it. If you would be kind enough to call and leave your number at 865-777-9627 I would greatly appreciate it (I know.. damn rookies).

Thanks,
Rookie2

 

[Rich]

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...When I'm trying to jack the motor up, its lifting the front end up instead...
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I have no expertise with the work you are doing, but I would guess that you need to unbolt the motor mounts and also perhaps the transmission mount.

Rich

 

[Rookie2]

Wow.. finally got the bastage out. Thanks Robbie at Slee Off Road for the phone call and help.

I'm still only able to get the engine to come up an inch or so before the hoist begins to lift the front end of the vehicle. I'm not sure what's causing the hand-up. After getting enough brackets and parts out of the way, I was finally able to get the oil pan out, but it's a tight fit. It's going to be tuff to get it back on with wet FIPG everywhere, but we'll see how that goes tomorrow. Least I've got it off and cleaned up, ready to go back on.

I'm beat and hitting the rack.

Later,
Rookie2

 

[erics_bruisers]

c'dan is on vacation fri - mon, or else i'm sure he would've answered in a heartbeat --

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[cruiserman]

The rig is going to lift up, since the motor is holding it down . You may also be hitting the bellhousing or tranny on the tunnel. You should take the wheels off and get the rig as low as possible. I unhooked the tie rod and removed the sway bar for clearance.

 

[cruiserdan]

All I did was unbolt the front motor mounts from the underside and use an engine lifting bar spread accross the fenders. I did not mess with the tie rod but I did remove the swaybar. My vehicle was on a hoist so the suspension may have un-loaded enough to have the tie rod out of the way.
As C-man observed by lifting up on the engine you are un-loading the front suspension by relieving the engine weight from the chassis. You are probably not lifting the vehicle with the hoist. Do you have the fan off? I raised my engine about 2 inches or so, maybe a bit more.

Before you goop up the pan get under there with it and try a dry run to test your angle of attack so you will know what to expect when you do it for real.

I'm not sure lowering the chassis will be beneficial as it reduces the space to work in from below.

 

[landtoy80]

Did you guys remove the lower pan first?
Would it be best to put the frame on jack stands to give more room under the motor?

 

[Rookie2]

Well,.. she's done! Loaded up with oil and fired-up. So far so good (fingers cross).

Again, a quick shout-out to Robbie at Slee off Road for getting me off dead zero yesterday afternoon, C'dan for all the advise along the way, Ingram Racing for the hoist and use of the solvent tub at 11 o'clock last night, and most of all Mike for boosting me up when I was ready to pack it all in and tow it to Toyota yesterday evening.

So, while it's still fresh in my mind, I'll list some of the snags I ran into in case someone else is needing to do this deal.

Mainly, getting the No. 1 oil pan out.
- Hint 1: If using an engine hoist to lift the engine, you only want to hook to the front engine hook to lift the front end of the engine. I had chained off to the front and rear engine hook, which was causing the whole front end of the vehicle to lift up.

- Hint 2: Need to remove the sway bar and the DS sway bar bracket to get the oil pan out.

- Hint 3: Jack the frame up and let the front suspension dangle in order to create more clearance under the pan. I put (2) - 3 ton jack stands at their highest setting, under the frame, just aft of the front tires. Then I put the front axle on jack stands at their lowest setting, to maintain some clearance below to work.

- Hint 4: I was only able to get the engine to come up an 1" or so before it began to lift the vehicle off the jack stands. I did not end up needing to take the fan assembly off. I just un-did the fan shroud and kept an eye on it. Since the engine was only moving about an 1", the interference at the fan was not an issue.

- Hint 5: Dry run is a good idea. You'll figure out serveral things that will help in the real run.

- Hint 6: If you've just got a drop or two-a-day leak like I had, you might want to wait til it gets bad before you deal with it. This was a big ass job for a drop or two-a-day of oil.

Anyways, glad it's done now.



Rookie2

 

[LX_TREME]

Dear CDan:

Would you please be able to help me find this part #69210-60010, #69210-60010, #69230-60010 & #69240-60010? And if you do have 'em how/what the best to reach you? Prefer by phone/IM?
By the way that part number for late '95 LC80 model.

Thanks
Regards,

 

[TomH]

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