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Iowa or Illinois?
Production numbers: Locked vs. non-locked. How many were made? (1 Viewer)
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Iowa or Illinois?
Ah, I forgot the Iowa edition is just up the road from Cedar Rapids. I'm in the flat version in Illinois.
Put Harrops in and you'll be happier.
Undoubtedly true. But doesn't answer the question haha
I know, but I'm actually happy I bought non-locked 80's now.
Fair. Harrops are certainly a better locker in the long run, but factory locked 80s are still worth more to buyers for their collectibility. Hence my original question about US LX models.
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When I was in the market earlier this year, factory locked ones were def more desirable and the prices reflected market demand of said functionality.
While I'm glad to have a factory locked '97, I did initially buy one without. So while it's logically clear that one can ultimately attain the same functional end result Toyota or aftermarket, just having that magic dial seems to make people happier with their purchase however illogical this may be.
We are humans, after all. Snowflakes, every single one of yas.
While I'm glad to have a factory locked '97, I did initially buy one without. So while it's logically clear that one can ultimately attain the same functional end result Toyota or aftermarket, just having that magic dial seems to make people happier with their purchase however illogical this may be.
We are humans, after all. Snowflakes, every single one of yas.
But why do you even care, if you know that Harrops, at the least, will provide what the OEM lockers do, and may I say, with out some of the problems and/or characteristics? When I got my Harrop lockers, I had Zuk at Toyota Gear Install Harrop install along with new R & Ps. Actually drove down and hung around Chandler, AZ while he installed and had several good conversations with him when he wasn't working on mine or others. We talked about lockers (and other wheelin' stuff, of course...lol) a lot. I was convinced, for the longest time that since I hadn't grabbed an 80 with e-lockers, I'd be scratching forever to find and get OEM e-lockers, somehow. But now, these seem to be filling the void and opening up the potential superior off road advantages that locked axles provide. And not interfering with the on pavement performance. One way or the other, having locking axles increase the value of your rig.
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Question answered...lol. Not sure I agree with their logic, though.
Mine has the magic dial and Harrops which are better, new, and don't have a contraption hanging off the diff.
Do Harrops have a switch that tells the user when they are actually locked and not just activated? I've always wondered if that added to the perception that aftermarket lockers (historically ARB) lock up instantly compared to the OEM units.
FWIW my 27yr old factory lockers work great.
FWIW my 27yr old factory lockers work great.
It still stands that buyers in this market will pay more for a factory locked 80 than an aftermarket locked 80, though. At least in my experience. And the fact of the matter is, 90% of them will never have a NEED to use them, they simply WANT to have them. Again, it comes down to collectibility. Going back in this thread, only an approximate 7% of US 80s series had factory lockers from 93-97...that creates a rarity that people pay top dollar for. I suspect we'll only see the numbers increase as fewer of these are kept on the road in decent condition. Fewer still with factory lockers.
Just my .02.
No, they don't. But IMHO not a deal breaker because in most situations when you're engaging a locking axle, it becomes physically & instantly apparent if it's locked. Speaking of that.....that is one of the main advantages of Harrop elockers, IMHO. They don't rely on a previous CDL or rear axle to be locked before working.
95k?!?!?!?!
That answers nothing. There is a difference between activated and engaged...
I can sort of see the advantage of that though I can't think of a situation where I'd want to lock the front without the rear, or the rear without CDL. This functionality could be added to any type of selectable locker if desired.
Only Toyota knows, and if they haven't released the info by now I doubt they ever will.
If you really want to know you could contact them, I know that people have contacted Audi for similar information and got what they were looking for. Still, I'd be surprised if you get anything.
Only on OEM. The OEM elockers need 12v to activate and physical movement of parts in diff to engage. Harrop need 12v, of course to engage electromagnet & rotation of drivetrain to engage. So if you have the 12v (shown by the light on switch) & drivetrain movement, locker will engage (unless diff or locker malfunction).
