Post Oil Change Questions

[mhall10407]

Ok so I'm a 100 series newbie. I just finished changing my oil and once I figured out I had to remove the huge cover under the engine I was on my way. A couple questions:

I ended up putting 7.5 quarts of oil in as I got a little carried away with my 5 quart container and overfilled the oil slightly. Will this be a problem?

Also the Mobil 1 synthetic says I can get 15k miles per oil change. Should I really go that long between changes. I would probably change ever 10k but I'm curious.....

Also if I could of gotten the screws loose on the cover under the engine will that get me to the oil drain plug?

Thanks
Mike

 

[SINCITY100]

Toyota lists the oil capacity @ 7.2 U.S. qts of oil so that will not be a problem.

I would suggest, however that you keep oil changes (under most normal driving conditions) in the 5000-7500 MI range, even with synthetic oil

Just remember to use a Genuine Toyota oil filter

For draining the oil, remove that small oblong cover in the middle of the rear engine cover under the pan for access to the drain plug

 

[jp213a]

Just remember to use a Genuine Toyota oil filter

For draining the oil, remove that small oblong cover in the middle of the rear engine cover under the pan for access to the drain plug

The Toyota oil filter is OK but I prefer the Mobil M1-102.

Be sure your drain pan holds at least 7.2 quarts.

 

[Landpimp]

next time..........use the access holes, there is one for the oil filter(2 bolts to take off little cover) and the other for the drain plug(2-3 screws, little cover)

Ok so I'm a 100 series newbie. I just finished changing my oil and once I figured out I had to remove the huge cover under the engine I was on my way. A couple questions:

I
Thanks
Mike

 

[SINCITY100]

The Toyota oil filter is OK but I prefer the Mobil M1-102.

Just out of curiosity, why do you prefer the Mobil filter JP ?

 

[cary]

You can go 10k miles easily per change. Depending on the type of driving you do 15k is obtainable, but I am reluctant to recommend going that far without performing a used oil analysis. The general rule is do not go longer than a year. If you do a lot of highway driving, then for 15k changes. If you do a lot of in town, go for 10k.

Cary

 

[BuckFan74]

I agree with cary.

I have had a '99 for almost 2 years and have only used synthetic in it. I change my oil every 7000 miles or so (the longest I've gone is 9000) and I've had absolutely zero problems. My oil comes out looking good everytime. I would recommend using the K&N filter for it. It's a bit more (about $11.00) but worth it IMHO.

 

[jp213a]

Just out of curiosity, why do you prefer the Mobil filter JP ?

I prefer the Mobil oil filter because independent performance test results are readily available and the results are excellent. The K&N filter test results are also excellent. I've never been able to find test results on the Toyota filter. The Mobil and K&N filters are well designed and built. They have a large media area, small pore size (synthetic fiber, not paper media), high strength media (won't blow out during a cold winter start when oil is thick), and a dependable by-pass valve and anti-drainback valve. They do cost $4-5 more than a Toyota filter but IMO, the quality level is worth it, especially if going 7.5K to 10K or more between oil changes. With the Mobil filter, the oil on the dip stick still looks new after 2-3K miles. Here's one oil filter test site:

http://people.msoe.edu/~yoderw/oilfilterstudy/oilfilterstudy.html

Extending the mileage between oil and filter changes is possible with the 2UZ-FE engine because the sump holds 2-3 quarts more oil than most engines.

 

[SINCITY100]

Thanks for the link on filters JP !

It is too bad they dont have data on the genuine Toyota filter, I would be very curious how it stacks up against the other major brands, The Mobil 1 unit sounds like an impressive product, but that last statement in the review was a little troubling

"I have received many reports of these filters failing at high pressures. It seems that the seam where the backplate crimps to the case can split. "

I am sure this would only happen under quite extreme conditions, and is unlikely to happen under "normal" uses and pressures

I do recall (years ago) about an independant test of the factory (GM, Motorcraft, Toyota...etc filters, and the Toyota unit tested quite favorably, but it was the "old" conventional design (before they released the current compact "crystal" element style....)

 

[spressomon]

If you really want to do your engine a good favor install a 2-stage dual filter system (Amsoil, etc.) that not only filters down to 1-micron but also has over 5-times the filter media surface area. Stay with the syn oil then change the filters every 3,500-5,000 miles (with added oil to refill the filters) with full oil changes every other filter change. That's my plan.

 

[tabraha]

Food for thought on the oil filters:
http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/parts/toyota_filter/mobil1/index.html
I use the m-102 as well but it looks like Mr. T is darn good too.

As far as being able to run 15k miles, it's do-able but I wouldn't think about it without a UOA being performed on your individual engine. It's cheap insurance to know you can do it without problems.

My last UOA on my engine; running the oil for 12,200 miles:
http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=001892#000000

I hope to have another done in the next couple months for both my LX and Taco.

 

[Auggies'Blu]

I'm coming up on an oil change and am curious about the UOA. Where and how does one go about getting one? Thanks for the info.

 

[NMuzj100]

I'm coming up on an oil change and am curious about the UOA. Where and how does one go about getting one? Thanks for the info.

Try Blackstone Labs. They'll even send you the sample kit free.

For other options check out bobistheoilguy.com

They have a whole forum dedicated to UOA - UOA Forum

And a little info on What is UOA?

 

[calamaridog]

Toyota lists the oil capacity @ 7.2 U.S. qts of oil so that will not be a problem.

I would suggest, however that you keep oil changes (under most normal driving conditions) in the 5000-7500 MI range, even with synthetic oil

Just remember to use a Genuine Toyota oil filter

For draining the oil, remove that small oblong cover in the middle of the rear engine cover under the pan for access to the drain plug

I disagree totally. I know people are running the original style Mobil 1 in the 4.7 V8 at 10,000 mi. intervals and getting clean oil analyisis back from the lab. Nothing wrong with the Toyota filter but it is not better than a Mobil 1 or Amsoil filter. As long as the filter has the same specifications you are fine.

If you are doing a 5,000 mi. drain interval then don't waste your money on synthetic oil.

 

[calamaridog]

tabraha, great 411 thanks!

My pal is getting similar results with his Tundra and 10,000+ drain intervals. I ran the 5w30 Mobil 1 and M1 filter in my Tacoma with a 7,500 mi. drain interval. The 3.4 is harder on the oil than the 4.7 but I'm sure there was room for more mi.

 

[Auggies'Blu]

Try Blackstone Labs. They'll even send you the sample kit free.

For other options check out bobistheoilguy.com

They have a whole forum dedicated to UOA - UOA Forum

And a little info on What is UOA?

Right on...just sent for the free kit. Thanks NM

 

[SINCITY100]

I disagree totally. I know people are running the original style Mobil 1 in the 4.7 V8 at 10,000 mi. intervals and getting clean oil analyisis back from the lab. Nothing wrong with the Toyota filter but it is not better than a Mobil 1 or Amsoil filter. As long as the filter has the same specifications you are fine.

If you are doing a 5,000 mi. drain interval then don't waste your money on synthetic oil.

I totally AGREE with you Calamaridog....


I did not specify what I was saying or meant...I was referring to vehicles that are still under factory or even extended warranty..It is possible that a unrelated warranty claim (on the engine) could be DENIED if a longer (than required by Toyota) interval was followed, with or without a Genuine Toyota filter

But by using a factory filter (and keeping a good record of your maintenance, especially mileage) the chances of ANY warranty claim NOT being honored is basically "0"........ and as you well know, using a Toy filter for the first 60,000 or so miles wont hurt a thing....I have no preference for the Genuine filter over the Mobil1 unit as a replacement, and by NO means do I think Toyota`s is superior... It can, however, keep an owner out of trouble in the unlikely event of a failure...

I stand corrected (and humbled)....

 

[calamaridog]

<I stand corrected (and humbled)....>

LOL, don't be humbled I have learned much from these different message boards. I used to think synthetics were a waste of money but I can't ignore the evidence anymore!

Free exchange of information and ideas. I change my mind almost daily about stuff!

 

[Jukelemon]

I think we split hairs when it comes to filters ( : Not saying I would, but I know many, many many that have ran hard working farm trucks on Fram Walmart filters and guess what................no engine failure. I can think of 0 times when a 100 could be at the operating temp of a 460 pulling 20k lbs of cattle or tobacco.

Just a thought.

I like my 4.00 Toyota Filters and they are as cheap as any. The filter issue is really only significant, in my opinion, if you are changing over the 3-4k mark.

 

[calamaridog]

Ok, I just changed my oil in the LC to Mobil 1 and I am using the M1-209 oil filter which is larger than the M1-102. The M1-209 is about 1" longer than the stock Toyota filter and fits nicely in the available space.

Larger filter = greater filtering media... That's the theory anyways. The specifications are the same, the filter is just longer.

My friend has been running the M1-209 style filter for about 30,000 mi. now on his 4.7L Tundra.

I plan on doing a 10,000 mi. interval and sending the oil in for analysis. I'll let you know next year