Pilot bearing install issues (1 Viewer)

[findtherightlin]

So I just got home from a week at the river and I'm back working on getting the h55 installed. Tried to get my new pilot bearing in but it's not seating all the way, and doesn't seem to be turning as freely as it should.... From what I can tell it's going in straight, but I can't get it to go in any further. Hard to tell from the photo, but I'd say it's sticking out about 4-5mm. I've been driving it in with a hammer hitting and extension/socket the same od as the bearing. Any suggestions? Should I keep trying to drive it in?

 

[mattressking]

Doesn’t look seated to me. Almost at an angle. It’s pretty easy to tell, run finger around bearing perimeter, if it’s not flush with recessed surface it’s sliding into, it’s not in all the way.

If it’s still troubling you, remove and inspect the orifice. Then also test fit bearing on input shaft of trans for fit prior to installing if you remove again.

Also compare to previous pilot bearing, make sure they are same OD.

 

[cruiserpilot]

I’d pop it out and clean it p and check for burrs or inflections around the edge and then try to reinsert it.

 

[findtherightlin]

Doesn’t look seated to me. Almost at an angle. It’s pretty easy to tell, run finger around bearing perimeter, if it’s not flush with recessed surface it’s sliding into, it’s not in all the way.

If it’s still troubling you, remove and inspect the orifice. Then also test fit bearing on input shaft of trans for fit prior to installing if you remove again.

Also compare to previous pilot bearing, make sure they are same OD.

Yeah, its about 5 mm from being flush with the surface it slides into. I think I threw the old bearing out. This one seems to be the right part, I ordered from cruiser brothers.

 

[OSS]

Get rid of that bearing & toss it in the trash. It's the wrong type. Although it is the correct size, (6202) it's a sealed bearing which can cause notchy shifting.
The black rubber seal you see, contacts the inner race and creates significant friction while turning as you felt. The bearing doesn't spin freely. That drag from the seal will transmit to the transmission, preventing it from spinning down easily during a shift. You can get notchy shifting from sealed bearings.

Do yourself a favor and buy the genuine Toyota pilot bearing. It's a non-contact sealed 6202 bearing made specifically for Toyota by Nachi in Japan and isn't available from any bearing supply shop. It spins effortlessly. You'll notice it when shifting.

When installing a pilot bearing, use a large socket that will fit around the outer race of the bearing to tap it in with a hammer. Never apply any force to the inner race (smaller hole that the input shaft will slide into).
You'll know with absolute certainty when the bearing is fully inserted because it will suddenly stop moving when tapping it in with a hammer & socket.

 

[Spike Strip]

As stated, get the correct bearing and clean out the crank recess well. Make sure no burrs or crap. You can apply a THIN bit of anti-seize on the outside of the bearing to ease install, as well as 20 min in the freezer.

Also, important! Test fit the bearing onto the nose of the trans input shaft to make sure it's a slip-fit. Sometimes it requires a little burnishing with some emery cloth to make sure the snout goes in easily, otherwise you may find it binding when trying to stab the trans. I've seen a situation where someone tried to force the mating with snugging up the trans to Bellhousing bolts and snapped the ear of the trans case.

GL

 

[findtherightlin]

Got the bearing out.... I'm getting pretty good at the grease/bread method having done it twice now. Ended up using an everything bagel this morning actually, but worked the same. I cleaned the crank up and can't feel or see any gouges/dents in it. Going to call the dealer today and order the correct part, and I'll make sure to test fit it on the h55 prior to install. Thanks for all the help!