PHH is replaced (1 Viewer)

[Kaderabek]

Did the PHH this weekend. It's not that bad. Took the advice of Jim Reiss, pulled the wheel, starter and transmission dipstick tube first. Getting to the hose is straightforward after that. Cut the hose in half, pulled the cotter pin on the outside clamp, removed the clamp and that half of the hose. Cut the other clamp off with a Dremel tool. Mostly. Loosened it up enough anyway, then hacked a piece of the hose out and grabbed the clamp with my needle nose pliers (actually my daughter's, came out of her beading kit when I couldn't find mine). Later remembered to pull the other half of the hose off.... It's dark back there! Soaped the inside of the new hose and put it and both the new clamps loose on the outer side. Then began to try to rotate the down tube and new hose onto the nipple on the engine block. Tried a lot. Tried many ways. Wouldn't do it. So had lunch and got some brain power back. Put the new hose/clamps on the engine block nipple and began the process again. Steve Smith (who is a saint) then muscled the down tube into place from the top and I clamped her down. Refilled the radiator, put the rest back together and we were done.

Took 7 hours, give or take. It would take 3-4 to do it again. Knowing how to rotate that down tube is the key. The rest of it is easy.

As usual, my hat is off. To Jim Reiss for the good advice. And to Steve Smith who arrived at 8 am and was essential to the process. You all are good friends and in many ways that's what this is all about.

TJK

 

[Brentbba]

You're scaring me Todd! Got the PHH from our friendly board sponsor, and fast too!

 

[Kaderabek]

That's where I got mine too.

Just know that the down tube can be rotated without loosening anything else. That'll save you three hours (and a lot of cuts and bruises).

TJK

 

[LIVERUST]

So when you got it off and could look at it better, what was the condition of the old hose?


troy

 

[Kaderabek]

Short of it had been attacked by me, it looked fine.

But as I said to Steve, assessing the condition of the hose was not the point of the exercise. No regrets.

TJK

 

[Land Schmoozer]

so you gonna' to Death Moines and help me do mine ;o)... or maybe in TX when it's 100 degrees...

casey

 

[Kaderabek]

You pay for the Dog, I'm there.

Reminds me, I meant to mention it really is a two person job. One person most of the time, but two people when it comes to rotating the down pipe, and later when refilling the cooling system. Plus it's good to have an extra brain on hand, expecially when you're me.

Iowa, Texas, your choice, Casey.

TJK

 

[elmariachi]

...expecially when you're me.TJK

And I'll bet its hard bein' you...especially driving my truck.

p.s. I TOLD you to use two people to do the downpipe.

 

[Kaderabek]

I did use two people. Me and Steve. It's still difficult! Especially when one of the people is me.

Last I saw some money had changed hands....

TJK

 

[ginericLC]

Ha! Todd I did mine in an hour and 15 minutes and took a phone call during that time too. But I was stupid and mine blew out. I cut both factory clamps with a dremel. I didn't remove the starter and I used a power drill with quite a few extensions and 90 turn unit to tighten up the hose clamps. I was prepared for a much longer job. I replaced it with a factory hose. I couldn't justify buying a new one since I had factory hoses in stock. My dad got a box full of Toyota hoses from the dealer that someone gave them when they traded a rig in. I did also use the bending trick too. Also, for those of you have seen me I have ape arms for length but hands the size of a little girls. It makes work like this a lot easier.

 

[Kaderabek]

I don't know how you do this job with the starter on.

TJK

 

[elmariachi]

Last I saw some money had changed hands....
TJK

Okay, its yours.

Ha! Todd I did mine in an hour and 15 minutes and took a phone call during that time too. I have ape arms for length but hands the size of a little girls. It makes work like this a lot easier.

Then I should have had you break these tie rod ends loose on the rod before you sent it to me. It was harder than the PHH.

 

[lx450landcruiser]

so your saying you dont have to unbolt the two bolts that hold the down tube in place? the one behind the engine and the one on top? i cant get a wrench back to get the one behind the engine thought id have to buy one of those angle 45 ones?

mike

 

[Kaderabek]

I unbolted the top bolt and then lots of other stuff in an attempt to get to the bolt on the back of the engine. My hands look like hamburger as a result. But no, I never got that back bolt loosened. And I put the top back together before we finally got the down pipe to rotate back into place. And that was the logic that finally prevailed: it was in place before, it should go back into place now, without unbolting anything else.

TJK

 

[Gumby]

I don't know how you do this job with the starter on.

TJK

I've done every one with the starter in place and I have Popeye forearms.

I never do anything with the back bolt either

 

[4WD Toyota Owner Magazine]

I unbolted the top bolt and then lots of other stuff in an attempt to get to the bolt on the back of the engine. My hands look like hamburger as a result. But no, I never got that back bolt loosened. And I put the top back together before we finally got the down pipe to rotate back into place. And that was the logic that finally prevailed: it was in place before, it should go back into place now, without unbolting anything else.

TJK

Ditto what Kaderabek says. Loosen or remove the top bolt of the tube and maybe the lower but at all costs don't remove the LOWER bolt. You'll never get it back.

Just did this myself and Todd, took me about the same as you, seven hours or so, doing it solo and yeah, hamburgered by hands, arms and shoulders!

Dave

 

[Elijah]

I left the starter and tranny dipstick tube and didn't mess with the bolts retaining the pipe. Took 4-5 hours, solo.

 

[Kaderabek]

I'm not criticizing. There are plenty of ways to do this. Next time I'm going to stand on my head and do the job with the alternator installed in the starter position while whistling Dixie in the key of E.

TJK

 

[landtank]

Next time I'm going to stand on my head and do the job with the alternator installed in the starter position while whistling Dixie in the key of E.

Be advised....wear a cup!

 

[chitown40]

I've done every one with the starter in place and I have Popeye forearms.

I never do anything with the back bolt either

Mine took me about 1.5-2 hours with Gumby supervising. Starter stayed in, trans dipstick came out. Only removed the upper bolt. Not as bad of a job as I thought, but I also had the truck on a rack which may have cut down on the amount of time.