OM 613 3.2 CDI swap into 80FZJ (1 Viewer)
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Nissan GR tries to get help on his swap OM 613 into Nissan GR, they are experiencing problems with ECU, Immobilizer and synchronization with dashboard and auto trans.
Little offtopic for Nissan GR - it is alive Nissan GR OM648 and later I will place a link for a video
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OK last week I had a call from these guys to witness the engine running off the pallet.
I did'not have a camera with me so I did not took the video. Engine runs well off the battery and bottle of diesel fuel
Another question rose - can you guys show off your examples of intercooler location on ARB front with the winch, where did you located it? Merc's stock IC is long and straight. It will not fit the TLC without modification. We do not want any under hood location. Friend of mine had Mitsubishi Pajero with under hood IC, I think it is a joke, with no effect at all.
Right now I have new clutch set and flywheel, now sourcing out a used H151F, so guys could work on adapter pieces it without downing my TLC.
The main thing we found out that we do not need to cut the engine frame mounts - we can fit it on it's own liquid filled mounts on original TLC frame mounts with transition pieces.
So second step is complete, Mercedes CRD engine CAN and WILL run without it's body. I feel like we managed to do a surgery on someone's head and brought it to life without a body.
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Yeap. 606 is good engine but for lighter vehicles, I would go with 606 for Wrangler or something with same size and weight vehicle.
Mostly we are looking for low end torque higher than 1HD-FT and better fuel efficiency.
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It is all good with Cummins, but unfortunately in our part of the world it is more kind of unique thing, no parts, manuals and people do not deal with these.
Our project is test of OM 613/648 for drivability and durability for SUVs plus it commercialized. We are also looking for hardcore off-roaders 4.2 OM904LAII engine which is got higher torque than 5.9 Cummins and also common rail. We do have an engine and we will be trickling with it's brains.
Ok I like the Cummins because of the simplicity, manual rotary pump manual fuel pump, a very simple design good luck with your build, since a Mercedes, is easy for you
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Access to parts and availability of people who can fix it is a big advantage, plus it is a lot cheaper than toy's engine either Cummins.
Yeah parts and knowledge, are helpful, I can get help nearly anywhere here for a Cummins, and parts are cheaper than Toyota parts, and my friend makes all the adapter parts needed for the swap
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I did deep research on US manufacturers for adapters, there is no manual trans adapters, they just do not exist in any forms. And nobody really wants to deal with manual.
My friend makes an adapter for the Toyota transfer case, to a NV4500, including a output shaft
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Then it comes to the point of different gearbox, crossmember and etc. Problems with stickshift where it will come out. Cutting and modifying the tunnel and etc and etc. That is why we are looking for a engine which is similar to stock engine in size wise terms with enough torque and power for stock transmission to handle. If it comes down to the point of building monster which will not be a daily drive, I would prefer Hino engine 4.5 which is also readily available here, with it's own gearbox mated to Gealandnwagen's transfer case.
But then the point of making relatively cheap engine swap for daily drive eludes, as it requires a bigger budget. Plus this type of Frankensteins are not daily drive usually.
Well when we did the NV4500 and Cummins we used stock cross member,( we made a plate to bolt the rubber mount to the tranny, having a full function machine shop is a bonus) and a slight modification in the tunnel and a off the shelf clutch perch, and on mine, I am using stock tranny, this will be my DD. It's to bad you are unable to get the stuff we can, here my Cummins swap was easy, I just need the exhaust and finish the mapping of the ECU for the tranny
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I see no reason to go backwards, to mechanical stoneage. If I need torque and power of 5.9 Cummins I will be looking for 5.9 Hino (Toyota) much reliable and and bulletproof engine. Simply we do not need these Cummins, we can get Japanese and German engines which are in terms of reliability, parts, and usability are way better then American engines.
Even new 3.8 and 4.5 Cummins are infamous of they failure. Why do I need an headache?
Adapters I can make at the same CNC machines and programming can be done in it is best form. Programming reverse engineered in military facility.
So why do I need heavy, bulky low RPM monster? When I can get modern engine with RPMs of petrol engine, with good balanced fuel to power ratio. And it will not be a teeth breaking paint shaker, it is good to hear clack-clack-clack on someone's rig. I would go crazy driving a diesel genset, especially for long runs. And that is why I prefer quiet and well balanced engine, where I can put a coin and it will stay put.
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I see no reason to go backwards, to mechanical stoneage. If I need torque and power of 5.9 Cummins I will be looking for 5.9 Hino (Toyota) much reliable and and bulletproof engine. Simply we do not need these Cummins, we can get Japanese and German engines which are in terms of reliability, parts, and usability are way better then American engines.
Even new 3.8 and 4.5 Cummins are infamous of they failure. Why do I need an headache?
Adapters I can make at the same CNC machines and programming can be done in it is best form. Programming reverse engineered in military facility.
Oh I hear ya, I live in America, and the Cummins is way cheaper for me, and I don't have a shaker problem. I thought about going Mercedes, but got swayed because of the cost, I have only spent 8K on my swap, that's for everything, so we both have what we want and accessibility, to cost effective parts
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Oh I hear ya, I live in America, and the Cummins is way cheaper for me, and I don't have a shaker problem. I thought about going Mercedes, but got swayed because of the cost, I have only spent 8K on my swap, that's for everything, so we both have what we want and accessibility, to cost effective parts
Please show us if the coin can stay on Cummins
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I hate when my loose change rattles off my engine! Damn these Cummins engineers!
Please show us if the coin can stay on Cummins
Ok you got me, but it's not like a 4BT a 6BT is much better, but not like a Mercedes.
And with my Cummins swap I have bills and no loose change
