Newby gets a lesson

[Buckru]

I have been on this forum for about 8 months but, by my number of my posts one can tell I've done more reading than writing. Here is something i did'nt know till today. According to CDan, never put a new bearing in an old race. When I did my birfs, it took me 22 hours for the passenger side. Fawk yes one side. So to wrap up quickly i popped in a new outer bearing thinking " a new outer is better than not replacing anything in the hub and I'll put new races and a new inner later". WRONG! When ordering a new tierod end and drag link end (yeah i fawked up the rubber boots), Dan informed me of my mistake thus increasing my order by a new outer and race while feeding his dogs . This may seem basic to some but I thought other newbs may wanna know.

Buck

 

[Buckru]

Oh yea, it only took 8 hours for the driver side. I'm definately improving.

Buck

 

[Beowulf]

Buck,

Get C-Dan to tell you about the bearing lessons ole Beo learned when doing my birfs a couple of years ago. It took me most of a 3 day weekend.

-B-

 

[cruiserdan]

Thou shalt not let thy wheel bearing fly across the shop whilst trying to extract the oil seal.......

 

[Scamper]

Not to mention my putting the upper trunion bearing race in upside-down THAT was fun...

 

[Scamper]

Hmmmmmmmmmm.......Woody's new 30 min timeout is causing some interesting deja-vu effects on the forum....

 

[Lars]

Not to mention my putting the upper trunion bearing race in upside-down THAT was fun...

I bet that was fun. How were you able to drive the race back out?

 

[Scamper]

Well... I wasn't easily able to.

I got a lot of helpful suggestions from forum members--many very creative. If nothing else, that's one of the great things about this forum--these guys have a lot of practical experience that lends itself to crotch-grabing situations.

But what I ended up doing is to carefully "expand" the existing cleft-like depression in the knuckle (i.e., the half-moon shaped notch in the knuckle) with a Dremmel tool so that I could get an edge on the race with a drift, then just knocked it out. It was truely a brown-shorts moment for me I never felt like such an idiot in all my life.

 

[brent]

So I just did my front end about a month ago and didn't knock out the trunion races just used the old with new bearings, you saying that might be a problem huh.....damn, think either way they are staying in place for a while, good info to know though, will probably be doing the wheel bearings sometime soon.........yeah I messed up one of my tie-rod boots too, its all about the tools......and knowing when to use the BFH and when not to, I generally break something everytime I do something big......anyway thanks for the info

 

[cruiserdan]

Re-using the races in a low speed application such as a trunion bearing is not as detrimental as a high speed bearing such as a wheel bearing.

 

[brent]

Glad to hear it, thanks again

 

[Junk]

I have come to the conclusion that Cdan must include complete instructions and diagrams every time he sells a part The 24 hr hotline too

 

[Scamper]

So I just did my front end about a month ago and didn't knock out the trunion races just used the old with new bearings, you saying that might be a problem huh.....damn, think either way they are staying in place for a while, good info to know though, will probably be doing the wheel bearings sometime soon.........yeah I messed up one of my tie-rod boots too, its all about the tools......and knowing when to use the BFH and when not to, I generally break something everytime I do something big......anyway thanks for the info

Brent - curious to know why you didn't replace the old races. After all, you bought the parts and did all that work to get at them...then you just passed them by? Just in a hurry for some reason?

 

[landtank]

My first axle job was Erics_Bruisers axle, that was my first mistake.

 

[Buckru]

Its always better to practice on someone elses truck.

Buck

 

[brent]

Scamper--------

I didn't replace them because the old ones look fine, no real indication of wear, etc, on the first side I gave the upper trunion race a good whack or two and didn't notice it move so I said hell with it, and moved on, just didn't feel like it was necessary at the time............in hindsight I probably should have taken the extra time to do them but hell, I'm young and won't learn until I do everything at least twice.............

 

[Kalawang]

So I just did my front end about a month ago and didn't knock out the trunion races just used the old with new bearings, you saying that might be a problem huh.....damn, think either way they are staying in place for a while, good info to know though, will probably be doing the wheel bearings sometime soon.........yeah I messed up one of my tie-rod boots too, its all about the tools......and knowing when to use the BFH and when not to, I generally break something everytime I do something big......anyway thanks for the info

Brent,


It's usually a good idea to replace evrything in a place that's hard to get to, if only as a hope you won't have to go back there again soon. Any old parts that still look good can be cleaned oiled and stored in case you break something in the future and those parts happen to be the ones.

Depending upon what you consider your personal time to be worth, serviceing, replaceing and repairing everything in the area you are working on can actually come out cheaper sometimes.


Kalawang

 

[Scamper]

Scamper--------

I didn't replace them because the old ones look fine, no real indication of wear, etc, on the first side I gave the upper trunion race a good whack or two and didn't notice it move so I said hell with it, and moved on, just didn't feel like it was necessary at the time............in hindsight I probably should have taken the extra time to do them but hell, I'm young and won't learn until I do everything at least twice.............

Ahhhh...let that be a lesson to you young wipershapper! We all learn the hard way in reality...no matter what we say.

 

[loquito]

When ordering a new tierod end and drag link end (yeah i fawked up the rubber boots), Dan informed me of my mistake thus increasing my order by a new outer and race while feeding his dogs . This may seem basic to some but I thought other newbs may wanna know.

Buck

You can also get just the rubber boots from Marlin Crawler. Ask for Chris, I have several on the way now, Chris was real nice to deal with. He is a member here. Chris Geiger is how to spell his name I believe.
Just infor for first time Birf job mechanics.