So i just picked up a new 2014 Land Cruiser here in VA and the mod bug has already gotten me. I already ordered the TRD wheels and 285/70/17 BFG AT/KO tires. next up is suspension. from all the reading i've done Radflo and OME are the ones most folks run. i will not be getting a front bumper and the truck is my daily driver, so 90% of the time it's on pavement and needs to be OEM quiet and have a plush perhaps better than stock ride. the other 10% it'll see off road duty, nothing hard core but i'd rather over engineer than have to go back and buy new suspension. that being said it seems radflo may be the way to go from what i've read. i'm worried about the OME and clunking in the rear. i am planning on doing the front and rear at the same time along with UCA's. so what is everyone experience with radflo or icon or even fox. those with radflo did you get the compression adjustable and external reservoirs? what length and lb spring should i get 14 or 16? 600 or 700lbs? again looking for a lift to get a no rake look and no extra weight will be added for a bumper since i'm not going to get one. also for rear springs, should i use the stock springs and just the radflo shocks? or go OME springs? if OME how much lift and what load rating?
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Absolutely do not get OME if you want anything remotely close to factory ride. Radflo shocks with adjustable reservoirs or TJM Adjustable shocks is the way to go.
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i spoke with tim over at Iron Pig Off road, he recommended the ICON set up so that's the direction i'm leaning. anyone with experience with radflo and icon could give their thought on ride quality on road and off?
I have zero driving experience to share (mine is still in the boxes). I came to the same crossroads and purchased the Icon CDC set up - all four corners.
May the Schwartz be with you!
May the Schwartz be with you!
BulletHead
Village Idiot
I've got 50-60k on OME setup. It's quite harsh now over bumps and pot holes. I'll be going with either Koni, Fox or Icon. Anthony has been through a lot pursuing a happy medium. The link below SHOULD be a sticky for this 200 section.
https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/my...ested-4-different-brands.796682/#post-9090206
https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/my...ested-4-different-brands.796682/#post-9090206
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which icons did you get for the front and rear, it seems icon has a bunch of different shocks at different stages so i don't which to get. guess i'll call icon and figure it out.
Atwalz
Civil Engineer
"I was able to find the front coilovers with reservoirs. $1725.95/pair for those and for the rear remote reservoir 2.5” shocks, $531.95 each." Here is qoute I got from wheelers offroad last week for parts only. I might do this next summer.
I have icon on my 2007 Tundra and very happy with performance.
I have icon on my 2007 Tundra and very happy with performance.
MScruiser
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Get the 2.5" radflos in the front and rear with the normal 600lb springs. You don't need external reservoirs, based on how little you will go off-road.
Get OME 722 springs in the rear.
You also will want the SPC Light Racing Control Arms (closest to stock look and maintenance).
You will also probably want a diff drop kit.
^ That is all you need.
Get OME 722 springs in the rear.
You also will want the SPC Light Racing Control Arms (closest to stock look and maintenance).
You will also probably want a diff drop kit.
^ That is all you need.
That's some serious coin even in sports car land. ICON leads the pack for 200 lc application present day imho.
They only had the piggyback rear resis. Now they have true resis in 2.5.
Comparing side by side you can tell where your money's going with the icons v radflos.
Can't go wrong with either?
MScruiser
obsessive-compulsive oppositional-defiant wise-ass
Will you be more specific? I am about to buy the radflos and don't want buyer's remorse.
http://trdparts4u.toyotaofdallas.com/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=-9852
The link above is the kit I purchased. I add the CDC's to the rear. I asked for a discount (just because) and received 10% off - that was awesome.
I spoke with and listened to Slee, IPOR, Power Products unlimited (in WA), Radflo and Icon. Remember, they are all salesmen, so sort through what you learn and figure out what it is you're comfortable spending.
wow this is an awesome kit!!! how high are you going, what's the advantage of the stage III over the stage II other than the lower trailing arms? Are the lower trailing arms necessary for achiving a certain amount of lift? Or are there other advantages to them? I have now decided to go with Icon as opposed to the OME kit and just can't decide between the stage II or stage III
Totally Happy with the Koni Raid Shocks from BJOWETT, he's not your typical salesman. He uses the Konis on his wife's 200 Land Cruiser.
I likes the Bilsteins but found their compression to harsh.
I get very annoyed with noises and rattles and found the Radflos too noisy for me. The rattles from the heim joints, noises from the inside of the shocks (valves?).
I have the Light Racing UCAs sitting in the garage. Don't know if I'm going to install.
Thanks for the request to skicky my review of the 4 sets of shocks. That's truly a compliment.
https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/my...ested-4-different-brands.796682/#post-9090206
I likes the Bilsteins but found their compression to harsh.
I get very annoyed with noises and rattles and found the Radflos too noisy for me. The rattles from the heim joints, noises from the inside of the shocks (valves?).
I have the Light Racing UCAs sitting in the garage. Don't know if I'm going to install.
Thanks for the request to skicky my review of the 4 sets of shocks. That's truly a compliment.
https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/my...ested-4-different-brands.796682/#post-9090206
MScruiser
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Krieten, why ICON over Radflo? Just asking, as you know, I am in the market for a lift...
just after reading reviews etc it came down to pretty close to 6 of one and half a dozen of the other for me between Radflow and ICON... The shop I'm going to have throw it on said they have been super happy with the ICON setups they have installed, so I'm gonna go with the ICON setup.... Sorry, not much help, just kinda came down to a gut feeling with a bit of help from Tor(Torfab)
MScruiser
obsessive-compulsive oppositional-defiant wise-ass
Hey, no problem. Just wondering. I am sorta in the same boat; both shocks are supposed to be great. I am having a hard time paying extra $$ for ICON when the Radflos are getting the same good reviews. I also called Radflo and spoke to Glen (the owner) and thought it was pretty cool that he was willing to talk to me for a long time about his shocks. That wen't a long way with me. Either way, both are supposed to be good, rebuildable, and have good customer service to back them.
Disclaimer - My knowledge on LC suspension is novice at best, so if an authority sees something incorrect then correct it please - wont bother me in the least bit.
I really like Bielecki's ride and he took his Icon's up all the way 3.6". I think he and Slee did a great job on it. I'd like to follow in his build but I don't have access to anyone local that can make that happen for me (secrete recipe). I'm certainly not going to screw around with it and potentially get out on the road with an unsafe rig and endanger myself and others. I plan on wearing down some 33+'s first and by then someone should have a kit out for the 35's that is proven to be solid. Long answer short Possibly 2.5" or 3" if it doesn't look goofy with 33's. 35's look proportional but so does Pamela Lee -IMHO
Stage three has the front C/O with the CDC (compression damping control - value) - stage two does not. The sources I spoke with said CDC was pretty nice adjustability to have and I think it was around $130 a pair additional cost. I love messing around with my suspension on my MTB so I figured this would be fun to dial in.
From what I can tell the rear trailing arms are bling and you can get some adjustability in the rear (to compensate for some side to side uneven-ness). I don't think they will contribute to lift, just a stronger arm with some ability to adjust and they look good.
That's my take,
Thanks
arich - your post on the 4 sets of shocks helped me when I was looking for good info - thank you
sleeoffroad
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It is important to know what your are buying. If you are not getting reservoirs, then you are just buying a shiny emulsion shocks just like the OME. Unless they are internal reservoir, which I doubt for the rear in that there is not enough space in the shock to make it internal reservoir and retain the stroke of the shock.
Understanding the different shocks available is key.
